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Amazon Key is Silicon Valley at its most out-of-touch

26 pointsby WhiteSource1over 7 years ago

14 comments

ravenstineover 7 years ago
Something a lot of people forget about with this service and Walmart's is how beneficial they will be for the disabled. If I was housebound because of a disability or had periods where I had limited mobility, I might buy exclusively from Walmart and Amazon if they could bring products into.my home and on to a table or fridge so I don't have to bend down. These services where employees can enter your home don't have to appeal to everyone under the sun for them to be successful.
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cocktailpeanutsover 7 years ago
This article actually says more about the writer than Amazon or Silicon Valley.<p>Silicon valley has ALWAYS been &quot;out of touch&quot;. That&#x27;s by definition, because silicon valley builds stuff for innovators and early adopters in the innovation adoption cycle.<p>But what&#x27;s different nowadays though is some idiots who belong in the laggard zone thinks they can judge the products that are barely at the innovator&#x2F;early adopter product cycle. And they happen to be journalists, or people with a lot of followers on Twitter.<p>I guess the real takeaway here is that social media has brought us to a point where the boundary among each of the phases in diffusion of innovation graph has become blurry. Some people who definitely don&#x27;t understand the technology can easily bury a small startup that&#x27;s trying hard to make it happen in the early adopter zone by writing up some propaganda piece.
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saidajigumiover 7 years ago
Funny enough, I had pretty much the same skepticism as the author re: Amazon Key. With IOT &quot;security&quot; scandals floating by seemingly daily, this feels like a poor tradeoff.<p>_However,_ this product seems like a great opportunity for a small hack: install the whole thing as a locker&#x2F;bench&#x2F;cabinet on your front porch. Almost all of the convenience, and no increase in risk. In fact, I&#x27;m a touch surprised that this isn&#x27;t how the product was conceived and launched in the first place: as a personal package locker.
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Rainymoodover 7 years ago
&gt;Amazon Key is perhaps the most outre example of this phenomenon yet. Yes, I do value convenient deliveries, but I value my security more — better to strategize around postal schedules than be assaulted by a person hiding in one’s home! And while I dislike rained-upon packages, I prioritize privacy enough that I’m loath to install a corporate-controlled surveillance apparatus inside my house.<p>&gt;I prioritize privacy enough that I’m loath to install a corporate-controlled surveillance apparatus inside my house.<p>I feel like this woman&#x27;s logic is inconsistent here. I can understand that you dont want a &quot;corporate-controlled surveillance apparatus inside my house&quot; but then why you do you carry one in your bloody pocket?! I can, with some degree of confidence, say that she owns a smartphone (probably an iPhone) which is basically the same.<p>Personally, I think Amazon Key is really pushing the boundaries of tech and making our lives better. If you have an Amazon camera pointed at your door which the delivery guy KNOWS is being tracked by Amazon and his job is literally to deliver the package safely which is also tracked etc. etc. For this person to do something malicious the payoff should be rediculously high (i.e. steal a Monet or something) because his livelihood (i.e. job&#x2F;reputation) depends on it. Now that I think of it, Amazon has the ID of the delivery driver so if the driver passes any further than the front door Alexa can basically (after a suitable warning) immediately call the police, no?<p>I, for one, welcome our new overlords.
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audlemanover 7 years ago
She doesn&#x27;t make much of an argument for why this product is bad, just expects us to follow along with her moral outrage.
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fasteddyover 7 years ago
To be pedantic Amazon is based in Seattle which is not in Silicon Valley.
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mankash666over 7 years ago
All Amazon did was integrate with the better selling smart locks. Amazon.com sales probably already provides the data to evaluate the feasibility of such a service - high traction on smart locks among prime members. I don&#x27;t think this journalist has a clue about what&#x27;s happening
memracomover 7 years ago
This is why the post office model is superior. The local post office receives the parcel and keeps it safe until you come to pick it up. Nowadays (at least in Canada) these post offices are colocated in pharmacies and other businesses that can spare a bit of space and are open outside of 9-5 hours.<p>If a Fedex or UPS would buildup a network of similar business partnerships in residential areas (or just rent some space in a shopping mall) then people would use then in preference to this expensive key gimmick.<p>Why hasn&#x27;t anyone ever thought of that before? Delivering goods to people in their local shopping mall?<p>Maybe because Silicon Valley is hung up on disruption and replacement so they never noticed that simply taking over existing businesses could be a lucrative model.
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carlosdpover 7 years ago
The comparison between Amazon Key and Bodega&#x2F;Juceiro seems off. The latter, he correctly states, do not solve problems average people actually have.<p>But Amazon Key, the author admits, solves a problem a lot of people have: who the hell has the time to wait around in the middle of the day for a package to arrive? We don&#x27;t all have a stay-at-home husband&#x2F;wife&#x2F;partner that can do that.<p>Now, the veracity of the idea of installing a security camera on your front door that goes to Amazon&#x27;s cloud is another thing, but that&#x27;s in the same conversation of whether having an Echo is a good idea.<p>I don&#x27;t think this is a great example of Silicon Valley being out of touch, this is just the author being big-brother conscious (which is valid).
tedunangstover 7 years ago
No mention that Walmart announced this first?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;business&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;22&#x2F;walmart-wants-to-send-people-into-your-house-to-unpack-your-groceries-even-when-youre-not-home&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;business&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;22&#x2F;w...</a>
RhysUover 7 years ago
Doormen, of the human kind, are a most convenient convenience.
dickbasedregexover 7 years ago
Am I paranoid in thinking this might all just be a test to see how readily the public might open their doors?
cl0neover 7 years ago
Seattle isn&#x27;t in Silicon Valley...
aaron695over 7 years ago
Word of the day of articles to ignore - Juicero