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Great, now there's 'responsible encryption'

45 pointsby sds111over 7 years ago

7 comments

gregmacover 7 years ago
How about the government agencies and administration leads in this area? They can use &quot;responsible encryption&quot; for all their stuff, with access granted to relevant oversight committees. If after several years nothing is compromised, and no agency <i>ever</i> encrypts anything &quot;irresponsibly&quot;, then this discussion about implementing these laws can start.
some999over 7 years ago
Time to embrace, extend, and extinguish this terminology: the only responsible encryption is an implementation which is built to be as secure as is known how to design. Backdoors are known to be insecure and are irresponsible.<p>I wholeheartedly embrace responsible encryption: designs which are both secure and easy to use.
rqsover 7 years ago
Clearly they don&#x27;t seems to know what is encryption.<p>Because there are only two types of encryptions: Ones that work, ones that don&#x27;t.<p>It&#x27;s a none or everyone deal: Once an encrypt algorithm got cracked, everyone can then access to the encrypted data.<p>&quot;responsible encryption&quot;, ha! why don&#x27;t call it &quot;illusional encryption&quot;
awaltonover 7 years ago
...no there isn&#x27;t. It&#x27;s just another boring retread of key escrow, and we already vehemently discarded that terribly bad idea in the 90s.<p>But hey, as the world&#x27;s about to destroy Net Neutrality and overturn Roe v Wade, why not. Tis the season for terrible ideas and throwing away decades of progress.
nickysielickiover 7 years ago
<p><pre><code> &gt; If companies are permitted to create law-free zones for their customers, &gt; citizens should understand the consequences. When police cannot access &gt; evidence, crime cannot be solved. Criminals cannot be stopped and &gt; punished. There is an alternative. Responsible encryption can protect &gt; privacy and promote security without forfeiting access for legitimate &gt; law enforcement needs supported by judicial approval. &gt; &gt; Technology companies almost certainly will not develop responsible &gt; encryption if left to their own devices. Competition will fuel a &gt; mindset that leads them to produce products that are more and more &gt; impregnable. That will give criminals and terrorists more opportunities &gt; to cause harm with impunity. Sounding the alarm about the dark side of &gt; technology is not popular. Everyone who speaks candidly about “going &gt; dark” faces attacks by advocates of absolute privacy. &gt; &gt; Some advocates are motivated by profit. Others demonstrate sincere &gt; concern about the benefits of privacy. They are not concerned about &gt; preserving law enforcement capabilities. Those of us who swear to &gt; protect the rule of law have a different motivation. We are obliged to &gt; speak the truth. &gt; &gt; The truth is that “going dark” threatens to disable law enforcement and &gt; enable criminals and terrorists to operate with impunity. &gt; &gt; Allow me to conclude with this thought: There is no constitutional right &gt; to sell warrant-proof encryption. If our society chooses to let &gt; businesses sell technologies that shield evidence even from court &gt; orders, it should be a fully-informed decision. </code></pre> I never thought about it like that. &#x2F;s
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willsrover 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve been seeing the &#x27;responsible encryption&#x27; meme popping up quite a bit recently. Like this bloke, who thinks people that want working encryption are extremists. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.circleid.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;20171024_legal_controls_on_extreme_end_to_end_encryption_ee2ee&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.circleid.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;20171024_legal_controls_on_ext...</a>
maxxxxxover 7 years ago
Do they have any real proposals? It would be interesting to see what they want to do. It sounds a little like &quot;clean coal&quot; which never materialized.