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Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

431 pointsby alantrumover 7 years ago

46 comments

esquivalienceover 7 years ago
Fantastic concept! But I&#x27;m completely turned off by the IP terms ([1] below). This suggests LogoFox is pushing icons without doing IP checks, and selling them as finished logo designs without any assurance that the user won&#x27;t get sued because of this.<p>Don&#x27;t take this as negative feedback, but as a tip to re-think the legal side approach. Better would be that you<p>(a) you do some copyright checks and your terms state what checks have been done; and (b) once someone pays for the logo, they own the IP rights in the logo.<p>[1] &quot;Third Party Design Resources – You may use purchased End Products outside of the Site, whether for commercial or personal purposes. Prior to creating and using any End Product, LogoFox highly recommends you to perform due diligence to determine that the use of the Design Resources is free of any adverse claims and is not subject to any third party rights. LogoFox may also use symbols provided by The Noun Project, a third party content provider that obtains the symbols from other third party contributors. All use of these Symbols is AT YOUR OWN RISK. &quot;
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rkeene2over 7 years ago
I tried it out and the UI is poor. Things like clicking buttons don&#x27;t result in any user-visible action, like a page loading, or even something bad (but not as terrible as nothing) like the button changing contents -- a couple of seconds later the next step happens. This means clicking is click, hope for the best, wait 300ms, get bored, click again, give up. Same for the search, type in a term, the list of icons disappears, and is repopulated when matches are found -- unless no matches are found then nothing happens, you have to wait until you are pretty certain that the blank icon area means no matches and not searching.
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foxhopover 7 years ago
I agree that this sort of sucks for real designers but this is the sort of crap we are going to be dealing with more and more as proponents of AI and machine learning get their way.<p>This tool is not useful for generating a great logo, yet. But it does produce a bunch of random ideas that might allow a human to come up with an awesome idea.<p>For example I worked with a designer I found on craiglist for my logo for Remarkbox (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.remarkbox.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.remarkbox.com</a>)<p>Her versions were everything up to the purple version: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.foxhop.net&#x2F;remarkbox-logo" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.foxhop.net&#x2F;remarkbox-logo</a><p>I was very happy with her work and help coming up with the idea, I paid her in full and ended up creating my own version which is the one I&#x27;m using today.<p>I think this sort of program could be marketed to real designers to help them get the creative juices flowing.<p>LogoFox is a very cool idea, basically hot or not or tinder of design, something I was talking to the founders of hatchwise about.
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marpstarover 7 years ago
I used LogoJoy [1] a year or so ago to create a logo for my side business. This appears to have a lot of the same &quot;designs&quot; available as LogoJoy, but with a much less intuitive UX.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;logojoy.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;logojoy.com&#x2F;</a>
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softwareqrafterover 7 years ago
Cool!<p>I would also love to recommend <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;logodust.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;logodust.com</a>, for open sourced logo designs made by a design agency [1] that you can download and use for free.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fairpixels.pro" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fairpixels.pro</a>
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quickthrower2over 7 years ago
I&#x27;d change the heart button to &quot;Like it &amp; Save It&quot;. I was clicking Like it loads of times expecting something to happen then realized I was never going to get a logo doing that. I didn&#x27;t realize the heart did anything.<p>Also need some way of downloading them without giving the email. It is not clear whether giving my email is going to let me download them or just get back to where I was, where I need to buy them.<p>Finally the logos seem quite basic for a premium service. I could knock those up in Inkscape for free.
mr_ali3nover 7 years ago
Good to see that you guys are using my redirecting loader <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codepen.io&#x2F;mr_alien&#x2F;pen&#x2F;FDLjg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codepen.io&#x2F;mr_alien&#x2F;pen&#x2F;FDLjg</a> hehe
hitgeekover 7 years ago
the pricing seems high for this service.<p>$30 for a computer generated logo. $990 for a professionally designed logo.<p>I&#x27;m pretty sure you can get a computer generated logo for free from a variety of services, and professional logos for much less than $990.<p>The UX on the site isn&#x27;t great, so I wouldn&#x27;t really pay for a premium service.
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geetfunover 7 years ago
Congrats on the launch. Yes, some folks have mentioned about the UI not being optimized or whatever. But it&#x27;s easy to defer launching with the hope that everything would be &quot;perfect&quot; from the get-go. In any case, it&#x27;s a good enough MVP and hopefully you&#x27;ll get some sales and valuable feedback to improve your product further.
Todoitover 7 years ago
How does invoicing work when you use such a service? Where does it come from? Does it include VAT?<p>I tried to figure that out via the chat, but the developer said he is &quot;not sure&quot;.<p>What does that mean? Isn&#x27;t everybody who sells physical or digital goods required to provide a valid invoice?
slededitover 7 years ago
You should respect the capitalization in at least some of the suggested logos. I either got all caps, or only the first letter capitalized. If someone uses a non standard capitalization its probably for a reason.
username223over 7 years ago
I tried it for &quot;Pied Piper,&quot; and ended up with a few B&amp;W pictures of pipes, and a propellor plane that might be a Piper Cub. Seems amateur.
hayksaakianover 7 years ago
A little clunky on mobile, but the output is super cool.<p>My major annoyance is &quot;trapping&quot; the back button so I can&#x27;t go back.
rsotoover 7 years ago
Great concept, congrats on shipping. I think there&#x27;s a big market for automatic logo creation, however I don&#x27;t think using icons from The Noun Project is the answer because the output looks generic, and that&#x27;s not something you want if you are paying $30. I&#x27;m just thinking aloud, but the brand name should get the idea for the isotype and then generate it from scratch, not just using it. Also, the brand name should give the idea of whether is a serious business, or a playful one.<p>On the experience I had a few ideas: after selecting the icons, there&#x27;s no «next», just «close» button, which sounds like I will lose my progress. And I get you&#x27;re generating the logos on the fly, but don&#x27;t let me see a brief moment of &quot;error creating your logo&quot;. At least wait a few seconds before showing it.
dreamlingover 7 years ago
This reminds me of <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;logojoy.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;logojoy.com&#x2F;</a> Does LogoFox also use AI (as logojoy said they do <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;logojoy.com&#x2F;press&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;logojoy.com&#x2F;press&#x2F;</a>)
jfindleyover 7 years ago
Hmm &quot;fast&quot; logo maker - sure, it&#x27;s fairly quick to use, but is speed of creation really what people optimize for when creating a logo for their &lt;whatever&gt;?<p>I feel like you&#x27;d be better off emphasizing ease of use for non-designers or something.
andys627over 7 years ago
Works better than expected - nice! Wasn&#x27;t sure what to do at the icons screen. Maybe &quot;close&quot; should be &quot;see logo ideas&quot;.
kralover 7 years ago
As a lot of stuff nowadays, this is just another &#x27;fast food&#x27; for startuppers, a random svg generator would have the same value.
grandalfover 7 years ago
Not sure how sophisticated the permutations are, but it seems that logos are a great way to test out various deep learning methods of image&#x2F;symbol generation.<p>As impressive as the AI music that sounds like Chopin is, I would love to see what can be done with a logo, especially if some copy about the company and product were also provided as input.
tigerBL00Dover 7 years ago
I expected the app to somehow &quot;understand&quot; the brand name and that the meaning(s) would influence suggestions. I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s happening, or at least it&#x27;s very basic. I tried &quot;Cloudera&quot; and &quot;Red Badger&quot; and got very similar suggestions none of which had to do with the name at hand.
city41over 7 years ago
This is a nice tool and I would like to use it for my side project. My project is called &quot;closet.zone&quot;, but when I typed that in, I got logos for &quot;closet&quot;. When I instead typed in &quot;ClosetZone&quot;, the tool seemed to interpret it as &quot;closetz one&quot;, and stylized &quot;one&quot; in most logos.
theDougover 7 years ago
I wasn&#x27;t aware that the speed to logo creation was a typical concern. Learning something new every day.
themodelplumberover 7 years ago
The mobile version needs help. I&#x27;m not sure I&#x27;d recommend this to my clients who have zero budget vs some of the other googlable logo makers (I&#x27;m a graphic designer who does periodic logo work and I offer to fix these auto-logos to make them more appropriate).
LeonMover 7 years ago
Doesn&#x27;t seem to work, if I choose text+logo, I only get a square with the first letter of the name I chose. Also, the icon browser needs some kind of loading indicator, now I don&#x27;t know if there are no results or if the search is taking long.
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WaxProlixover 7 years ago
Seems like it&#x27;d be good to be able to specify word breaks. For my little consulting company name, Forthright, it assumes that the word breaks are &quot;For&quot; and &quot;thright&quot;, which results in some weird looking logos.
Glyptodonover 7 years ago
I&#x27;m quite annoyed that it thinks it knows the first letter is always capitalized.
Lapsaover 7 years ago
typed in &#x27;LogoFox&#x27; and chose &#x27;Anything&#x27;. i&#x27;m concerned
quickthrower2over 7 years ago
I wonder if this is trending because due to word shape pattern matching, for 50ms my brain thinks that is about Firefox which is itself hot news right now. Then one I realise it isn&#x27;t I click anyway.
ghostbrainalphaover 7 years ago
I found one that I really liked. So I clicked &quot;I like it&quot;, but now it is gone!<p>I would really like a way to go back, so I could actually download, or screenshot my favorite.
dlo83over 7 years ago
I tried to buy a logo, but kept receiving a &quot;Purchase Failed. Please try again or contact support.&quot; Needless to say, not a good first impression.
dlo83over 7 years ago
I tried to buy a logo, but received a &quot;Purchase Failed. Please try again or contact support&quot; message. Not a great UX, to say the least.
the_arunover 7 years ago
Would be great if we have<p>1. Back button&#x2F;link as well to go back and compare 2. Facility to short list icons and compare later to decide final version
harrygeezover 7 years ago
Looking at the design on the generated logos, I&#x27;d say freelance designers need not worry for now
deckar01over 7 years ago
The search is case sensitive which produces no result when your phone starts with caps automatically.<p>I selected icon only, picked an icon, clicked close, and it showed me a bunch of text only logos with no icon. I went back, picked a shape, clicked close, and the loading screen just kept loading.
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Ne02ptzeroover 7 years ago
You should add a previous.
lazycouchpotatoover 7 years ago
Website doesn&#x27;t seem to be working in landscape mode on phones.
Jake232over 7 years ago
Oops. An error just happened Try again or comeback in few minutes.
xmichael99over 7 years ago
Why only alpha numerics? Totally fails me because of that
aerovistaeover 7 years ago
i don&#x27;t get it. isn&#x27;t it just showing the text in a variety of fonts with different backgrounds and sometimes like a shape next to it?
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jacoblsieversover 7 years ago
Yes, UI is a wreck. In addition, services like this demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding as to what logos are for and how they function. You can&#x27;t communicate your brand&#x27;s identity effectively by clicking some buttons and going on your &quot;gut.&quot; Do yourself a favor: pay for a professional.
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djsteinover 7 years ago
on firefox nightly. literally cannot scroll &#x2F; see any of the page if window is only at half height of my screen....
caio1982over 7 years ago
Does not accept non-english brand names.
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e2e4over 7 years ago
pricing: 1 logo for $19 only p.s. info displayed in the end of the process:
mdavid626over 7 years ago
Brilliant, thank you!
nvr219over 7 years ago
This is awesome
wannabedeveloprover 7 years ago
Hm it gets stuck on &quot;We are creating your logos as fast as we can&quot;, dying under HN pressure?