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Amazon Neptune – Fast, reliable graph database built for the cloud

286 pointsby irsover 7 years ago

18 comments

lmeyerovover 7 years ago
Awesome surprise to see the embargo lifted -- sounds like I can now say the Graphistry team will be doing a follow-up talk at Amazon Re:Invent tomorrow (Thursday) on Amazon Neptune + Graphistry. We&#x27;ve been incorporating this into visual investigation workflows for security, fraud, health records, etc. They&#x27;ve been doing cool bits on the managed graph layer, and were early to graph GPU tech (Blazegraph team members), and our side starts bringing that kind of thinking to visual GPU analytics &amp; workflow automation tech.<p>If you&#x27;re in town and into this stuff, ping me at leo [at] graphistry, and would love to catch up Th&#x2F;F for coffee+drinks. Also here + email, of course!
kendallgclarkover 7 years ago
If you actually read the docs, it&#x27;s not Janus-based, it&#x27;s based on BlazeGraph, which Amazon reportedly acquihired last year.
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rdslwover 7 years ago
Yet another amazon service to lock you in.<p>And then after two years, when you&#x27;re no longer startup with 100usd bill, but bigger company, you&#x27;re completly tied to a jungle of amazon products, and your exit strategy is very very costly.<p>clever amazon, clever.
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loliveover 7 years ago
Just an off-topic comment: i am the maintainer of a visual query builder for SPARQL queries. cf <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;datao.net" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;datao.net</a><p>This tool proposes to design query patterns from a graph data model, via drag n drops. The tool can then compile the patterns as SPARQL, run them on an endpoint and format the results as map&#x2F;forms&#x2F;tables&#x2F;graphs&#x2F;HTML (via templating)&#x2F;...<p>Another service of Datao (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.datao.net" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.datao.net</a>) proposes a search-engine view of those queries so you can type the textual representation of an object in any public SPARQL endpoint, and the service will list the queries currently available in Datao that can be applied upon this object. You can then run these queries with a click, and get the HTML templating of the query results.<p>Feel free to have a look at the website, if you find any interest in this tool. ANy feedback is welcome.<p>PS: Sorry for the poor quality of the videos. I manage this project on my spare time :)
randomorover 7 years ago
Only had experience with Cypher, really liked it. It will be interesting to see how Neo4j responds to this. Regardless of tech specs, the fully-managed Neptune vs a community version on AWS Marketplace seems to give Neptune unfair advantage.
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Graphguyover 7 years ago
Is this JanusGraph under the covers? Guessing since Neptune is a nod to Janus.
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brianbreslinover 7 years ago
Can someone explain to me in lamens terms what a graph database is?
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chatmastaover 7 years ago
It seems a lot of Amazon services are managed instances of open source applications. For example, commenters are suggesting this may be based on Janus. Elastic load balancers, at least originally, were likely based on haproxy. Etc etc.<p>Has anyone ever considered the licensing implications of this? How is amazon able to convert an open source product into a proprietary one and then charge for access to it?<p>Of course you can argue they’re charging for the infrastructure management, not the software itself. But that argument quickly breaks down as Amazon introduces new software, under new names, with a proprietary management interface over an open source core. Try to find the source code; you can’t.<p>And if you accept the premise that they’re just charging for hosting, then it leads to the question of why an open source project doesn’t reap any benefits from that hosting, or at the very least, from the management interface on top of it.<p>It seems like a better solution would be something akin to AWS marketplace, where open source projects are available to be hosted, and the maintainers can see some revenue from them.<p>It seems like unfair rent seeking behavior that amazon is able to slap a management interface on open source software and then charge for it under the guise of “hosting.”
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abaloneover 7 years ago
So I get that this offers simpler paradigm for graph data, but how should we interpret the &quot;fast &amp; scalable&quot; claim? Is it...<p>a) Slower than RDBMS&#x2F;NoSQL but still pretty respectable, so it&#x27;s a good choice for things like offline analysis.<p>b) About the same at RDBMS&#x2F;NoSQL, so you could use it to handle production traffic if you want.<p>c) Faster, so you should definitely prefer it in production, e.g. for fetching upvotes and comments on posts.
Varchtover 7 years ago
Why &quot;Neptune&quot;? Having a hard time riddling that name out.
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joakover 7 years ago
Are they using X1 ? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;ec2&#x2F;instance-types&#x2F;x1&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;ec2&#x2F;instance-types&#x2F;x1&#x2F;</a><p>For efficient graph DBs it&#x27;s better to have a lot of ram and cores ...
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nicklasssover 7 years ago
Super excited about this!!!!! BUT The preview link (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pages.aws.com&#x2F;NeptunePreview.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pages.aws.com&#x2F;NeptunePreview.html</a>) is broken, can anyone at AWS team help us with that?
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loliveover 7 years ago
1 point by lolive 14 hours ago [-]<p>I really hope Amazon will propose a facility to retrieve the RDFS data model of an endpoint in a uniform way.
hmm_reallyover 7 years ago
What inferencing does it offer to RDF?<p>How would I bolt on an inference engine to this if none is offered, i.e. to provide OWL:RL?
arthursilvaover 7 years ago
It could be a modified JanusGraph frontend backed by DynamoDB.
alexchamberlainover 7 years ago
For wider context here, is this leading the pack or do other public clouds have competing products already?
Drykenover 7 years ago
Sadly they use Gremlin that is so often said to have poor performances
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bdcravensover 7 years ago
Interesting that it doesn’t support GraphQL, but rather Gremlin and SparQL. Surely that will impact adoption.
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