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ADSL over wet string

337 pointsby tomkapover 7 years ago

18 comments

eroppleover 7 years ago
I linked this to my dad (who's been a network engineer and CIO-type for nearly thirty years) and his response kind of floored me: "yeah, we did this with ARCNET. Brine-soaked twine." So, one, this is Older Than It Looks, and two, apparently my dad might be a wizard?
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lb1lfover 7 years ago
Years ago, I tried the same thing on ham radio - made an antenna from a piece of wet string and tried to call cq.<p>It worked a charm, though I had to continously wetten the string as I applied RF power to it.<p>(21MHz ground plane antenna; eased the top end of the string through a hole pierced in an empty beer can, suspended it from a tree and filled the can with salt water.<p>Losses were huge, so antenna was easy to tune. Not the best of radiators, though, but I did work twelve or thirteen countries with it.<p>Cost of string and beer - $4.<p>&quot;Antenna this end is the proverbial piece of wet string - literally. Back to you.&quot; -Priceless.
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AdmiralAsshatover 7 years ago
Introducing: Verizon&#x27;s post-net-neutrality definition of Broadband-ready &quot;fiber&quot; lines.
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scrollawayover 7 years ago
For context, this is Adrian Kennard&#x27;s blog. He&#x27;s the CEO of AAISP (which I&#x27;d highly recommend for UK residents, they&#x27;re extremely ethical and transparent; although I would not recommend their mobile service for different reasons).
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Negitivefragsover 7 years ago
I once had an issue where my phone line was completely dead, but I was still getting ADSL, just at very slow speeds. In the order of 1mbit.<p>After the technician came he told me that one of the two phone line wires had been broken off at the exchange.<p>In other words, there wasn&#x27;t a complete electrical circuit.<p>The phone was dead but ADSL still works without even having a complete circuit.<p>I don&#x27;t even understand how that can work at all.
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circlingthesunover 7 years ago
&quot;As a bonus, fit tin cans to both ends and you get voice as well as broadband on the same wet string!&quot;<p>Ha!
ClassyJacketover 7 years ago
I&#x27;m sure Australia&#x27;s NBN will add this to their &#x27;multi technology&#x27; mix any day now.
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UseStrictover 7 years ago
Take a net, dip it in water, boom! Mesh networking.
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toomanybeersiesover 7 years ago
Hot dogs are also conductive, since they are also filled with salt water. I wonder if you could do ADSL-over-hotdog. Obviously the length would be limited by the length of a frankfurter, so you wouldn&#x27;t be able to get more than a foot or so, but it would be an interesting experiment.<p>A pickle might work too.
korethrover 7 years ago
So, now that the concept has been proven, are we going to see a proper RFC proposal to standardize this? There&#x27;s still 110 days left for submissions. That should be plenty of time to test what string types and electrolytes work best for various applications, to and improve the distance limit.
runeksover 7 years ago
After another 10 ADSL iterations, I think someone will accidentally forget to connect the wires and discover that it works just fine over the air.
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moultanoover 7 years ago
Anyone have a link that explains (ideally with some math) how this works?
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Humphreyover 7 years ago
Perhaps some Australian NBN (National Broadband Network) customers would get improved speeds with wet string over their fibre to the node installations
grandalfover 7 years ago
I wish more science were taught using this kind of thing as a starting demo to provoke a lot of wonderment.
lerie82over 7 years ago
&quot;salty wet twisted pair&quot;, lovely.
gonzoover 7 years ago
I once did this with HPNA 1.0
nathancahillover 7 years ago
Not sure if science or another pro net neutrality piece.
macawfishover 7 years ago
<i>&quot;He got some proper string, and made it wet...&quot;</i>
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