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Short Seller Says Naive Bitcoin Traders Open a Pathway to Profit

36 pointsby hamstercatover 7 years ago

6 comments

csomarover 7 years ago
This is not a good trade and here I’ll outline the reason.<p>1- You need to borrow GBTC to be able to short it. The borrowing comes at a cost “interest rate”<p>2- Futures themsleves comes with a premium and require rolling over. It is 100% stupid to use futures instead of the real thing: just buy bitcoin.<p>3- You won’t be able to cash out until the GBTC premium dissapears. If you are small this might never happens. 4- You might also find yourself in a bad situation: Bitcoin price goes up. You’ll need to supplement capital to your short. That can be an arbitrairly high amount of USD. 5- 4 can be fixed with futures as they allow you to withdraw non realized gains. But it comes at the price of paying for rollover premium. 6- GBTC high price might be due to illiquidity. Not interest.<p>Tldr: don’t follow this guy. Very sophisticated trade and not clear if it can be profitable.
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chipgap98over 7 years ago
Citron&#x27;s entire business is shorting investments and then trying to cause a panic with negative PR to move the market in their favor. It is shocking that what they do is legal.<p>This doesn&#x27;t mean they are wrong here, but I wouldn&#x27;t describe them as a trusted source either.
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number_sixover 7 years ago
It really is the Wild West of crypto currency right now. Greed is going to fuel a lot more arbitrage opportunities like these as people invest in crypto &quot;derivatives&quot; without fully understanding what they are buying.
pmc1over 7 years ago
&gt; Citron would not be pounding table if not appropriate,” he wrote. “Thank you for the 70 percent profit.”<p>So Bitcoin is up several 1000%s on the year and he is beating his chest from a 70% profit on the short side?
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fwdpropagandaover 7 years ago
&gt; The futures are already showing signs of efficiency. When they debuted a week ago, Cboe’s traded for a price as much as 13 percent higher than the price of bitcoin -- a wide gap indicating an immature market<p>Can someone explain this to me? If the market expects the price to go up a lot, why wouldn&#x27;t the futures trade at a large premium?
ThomPeteover 7 years ago
Cant determine whether this is a PR piece or actually sound “investment advice”
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