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Ask HN: iCloud forces usage of phone number for 2 factor authentication?

5 pointsby ploggingdevover 7 years ago
I switched from an Android device to an iPhone recently and was asked to setup an iCloud account. I went through the setup process and realized that my phone number was setup as a 2nd factor with no option to disable it [0]. Seriously? For all the talk about Apple devices being the most secure, not many people seem to be complaining about how Apple forces a phone number as a 2nd factor + account recovery method. Most people backup very personal data to their iCloud accounts and forcing a phone number as a 2FA is ridiculous. IMO Google gets 2FA right : I can setup a Yubikey + Authenticator + backup codes and remove my phone number as a 2FA method. And I also realized that there&#x27;s no way to delete an iCloud account. wtf?<p>(First time using an Apple device, so I might be misunderstanding the 2FA situation, correct me if I&#x27;m wrong.)<p>[0] https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;HT204915

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citruspiover 7 years ago
I switched from 2 Step Auth to 2 Factor Auth recently and saw the same thing. A trusted phone number is required (and verified with that code you received) but in the future you&#x27;ll receive 2FA codes on your trusted devices. But to setup that first device, you&#x27;ve gotta setup at least one trusted phone number. More information here[0]. Relevant bits:<p>----------------------------------------<p>With two-factor authentication, your account can only be accessed on devices you trust, like your iPhone, iPad, or Mac. When you want to sign in to a new device for the first time, you&#x27;ll need to provide two pieces of information—your password and the six-digit verification code that&#x27;s automatically displayed on your trusted devices.<p>...<p>A trusted device is an iPhone, iPad, iPod touch with iOS 9 and later, or Mac with OS X El Capitan and later that you&#x27;ve already signed in to using two-factor authentication.<p>...<p>A trusted phone number is a number that can be used to receive verification codes by text message or automated phone call. You must verify at least one trusted phone number to enroll in two-factor authentication.<p>----------------------------------------<p>In my case, I switched my iPhone to 2FA first and it sent me the SMS code. Once I started switching over my other devices to 2FA, I started seeing the code popping up (along with the location of the device being logged into, like in the photos from[0]) on my device instead of being sent via SMS.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;HT204915" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;HT204915</a>
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