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Show HN: PonziCoin, a transparent, decentralized Ponzi Scheme you can trust

182 pointsby vertocover 7 years ago

23 comments

saalweachterover 7 years ago
I am not a lawyer, but my gut says that a hilarious, tongue-in-cheek financial crime is still a financial crime.<p>Any lawyers want to weigh in on whether you have some sort of first-amendment right to parody crimes?
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iawover 7 years ago
&gt; We suggest shilling this coin heavily to your family and friends like a fucking sociopath.<p>That line made my day.
geoffreyyover 7 years ago
&gt; Q: Is this site secure?<p>&gt; A: We use Equifax-grade security.<p>haha
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phyllerover 7 years ago
Clearly this person has minimal experience in fraud, this is a horribly set up ponzi scheme. The investors can make a profit purely with their own actions, and remove any ETH that is currently in there. I thought about doing it, but don&#x27;t feel like getting into cryptocurrencies and putting up $30K to get a positive return.<p>The way you can rip this off is buy a bunch of coins at once, push up the value, and then sell them all. You have to buy a maximum of 400 PonziCoins before you can start making a profit, but then the more you buy, then cash out, the more profit you make.<p>This is if the current price is .02 ETH per PC, which I&#x27;ve heard it&#x27;s not anymore.<p><pre><code> +----------+------+----------------+ | numCoins | cost | return if sold | +----------+------+----------------+ | 100 | 2 | -1 | | 200 | 6 | -2 | | 300 | 14 | -2 | | 400 | 30 | 2 | | 500 | 62 | 18 | | 600 | 126 | 66 | | 700 | 254 | 194 | | 800 | 510 | 514 | | 900 | 1022 | 1282 | | 1000 | 2046 | 3074 | +----------+------+----------------+ </code></pre> Worst case scenario is the price has just gone up, and you need to buy 100 PC to make the price double. But immediately you can sell for half your cost, instead of 1&#x2F;4 because you made the price double. Do this again, but now you have twice the number of coins to sell, you are already breaking even on your first batch. Next round you make money on your first batch, break even with the second, lose with the third. But the fourth round you are making so much from the first and second rounds, breaking even with the third, and only losing half of your fourth, that you come out ahead.<p>You can&#x27;t make money forever, you will just take all ETH that has been put in before, which will be a small amount. Then nothing is left and it will be bankrupt until someone else puts money in. But it&#x27;s a guaranteed way to get your own money back, <i>if</i> you can afford to go at least 4 rounds, <i>if</i> it works exactly as the site says, and <i>if</i> no one cashes out coins before you do. The risk is that someone waits and cashes out after you put your money in and before you have cashed out, you have to do your transactions all at once to be successful.<p>I don&#x27;t know how this works behind the scenes, I don&#x27;t advocate for any of this, and I won&#x27;t be trying it myself. I also am a little disappointed to realize I may have provided the best argument yet to make this thing go. So don&#x27;t put your money in there, you are probably going to lose it.
socialist_coderover 7 years ago
UPDATE:<p>&gt; This has gotten crazy out of hand, I apologize but we will no longer be selling PonziCoin on this site because this was a joke. I cannot terminate the contract but I will not be selling any coins that I own.<p>The Buy button is disabled on the site. Also, if you checked the eth contract you will see it has basically $0 in it, down from over $175,000. I think what happened is that the BUY button was disabled on the site, the message added, and then people started dumping their coins and it was all gone.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;etherscan.io&#x2F;address&#x2F;0xe3f64dc522a66405c51d96aae234217a03502bb4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;etherscan.io&#x2F;address&#x2F;0xe3f64dc522a66405c51d96aae2342...</a>
kgwgkover 7 years ago
Warning: this is a scam. The real one is at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ponzico.win" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ponzico.win</a>
lpageover 7 years ago
This has seen ~$10,600USD worth of love so far [1]. The contract source is comedy gold [2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;etherscan.io&#x2F;address&#x2F;0xe3f64dc522a66405c51d96aae234217a03502bb4#transactions" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;etherscan.io&#x2F;address&#x2F;0xe3f64dc522a66405c51d96aae2342...</a> - accessed at Wed Jan 24 16:10:39 EST 2018<p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;etherscan.io&#x2F;address&#x2F;0xe3f64dc522a66405c51d96aae234217a03502bb4#code" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;etherscan.io&#x2F;address&#x2F;0xe3f64dc522a66405c51d96aae2342...</a>
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fictionfutureover 7 years ago
SEC as the symbol was my favorite part:
badosuover 7 years ago
I wonder if there&#x27;s liability for the author when people get damaged by this
qwerty456127over 7 years ago
Great news. I have always believed Ponzi and alike schemes should be as legal and available as any other kind of gambling and lottery as long as the people introduced are well informed abut the nature of the scheme and the risks it means. I know some people who had participated in a distributed Ponzi scheme consciously and with notable success while I don&#x27;t know a single person who had won anything above $2 in a lottery.
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cobookmanover 7 years ago
This was done with Ponzi.io a while back. Founder shut it down as they were afraid of breaking laws.
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gruezover 7 years ago
&gt;The World&#x27;s First Legitimate Ponzi Scheme<p>I&#x27;m pretty sure this was done before. As a dapp even.
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zerostar07over 7 years ago
I mean, a real decentralized ponzi should not have a centralized founder. It should randomly reassign the owner of the contract (is that possible?) or at least the premined to a random member.<p>Now that is a ponzi i could trust
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DoreenMicheleover 7 years ago
<i>Q: Is this a scam?<p>A: It&#x27;s as much a scam as 99% of the ICOs out there, but it&#x27;s more transparent about it.</i><p>If only real life had such easily spotted scams. &quot;Warning: This is a scam&quot; labelling would be so helpful.
slimshady94over 7 years ago
Can you see how many tokens have been bought till now?
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BLanenover 7 years ago
This isn&#x27;t the first. Not by a long shot.<p>I remember these &#x27;transpararent ponzis&#x27; from years ago.
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atentatenover 7 years ago
Awesome! Just bought 100K worth.
toddkazakovover 7 years ago
The white paper is great
hndamienover 7 years ago
This is a pyramid scheme and not a Ponzi. I&#x27;m disappointed.
frinxorover 7 years ago
This is fantastic. Cant lose more than 75%? I&#x27;m in
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thrillgoreover 7 years ago
Finally, an honest pump and dump ICO for me!
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agitatorover 7 years ago
The white paper made my day. haha
aakilfernandesover 7 years ago
That logo is fantastic