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Apple prepares macOS users for discontinuation of 32-bit app support

64 pointsby e1venover 7 years ago

13 comments

BugsJustFindMeover 7 years ago
I love many things about Mac OS, but one thing that I really truly absolutely love with a passion above all else about Microsoft Windows is that a Win32 executable compiled 17 years ago in XP will still run today on a brand new Windows 10 machine with zero fuss. There's something to be said for not destroying the past in the name of progress. Not everything gets rewritten for the shiny new system framework. Sometimes people make something great and then die.
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thinkythoughtover 7 years ago
This is a huge crap sandwich if you need to use 32 bit version of pro apps(especially pro audio apps, in my case) to use sometimes expensive plugins that aren&#x27;t compatible with the 64 bit version of the software, or aren&#x27;t without expensive upgrades or shim libraries.<p>Obviously you can work around this for new projects, but it leaves you in the position of needed to keep an old machine or VM around just for opening old project files that would be useless without those plugins. I&#x27;ve talked to multiple people in this situation.<p>The 64 bit only switch was easy on iOS compared to this. Yes, there&#x27;s new versions of the applications themselves available, but a whole host of plugins for audio(and i&#x27;ve heard video and photo apps) are going to get left in the dust here leaving people in the lurch.
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TazeTSchnitzelover 7 years ago
This will be the final death of the Carbon API, since it was never supported for 64-bit.
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goaliecaover 7 years ago
About time. There was only 1 generation of Intel macs that didn’t have 64-bit and it is not supported by latest OS anyways.
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exikyutover 7 years ago
I guess this is the perfect place to ask: what virtualization platforms run 32-bit OS X (since I guess that&#x27;s what it was called when it was 32-bit) Really Really Well, and how&#x2F;where can I learn about how to set everything up perfectly?
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orionblastarover 7 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;BlastarIndia&#x2F;OSX-KVM&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;README.md" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;BlastarIndia&#x2F;OSX-KVM&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;README.m...</a><p>It is possible to run older MacOS installs in QEMU under MacOS or Linux on a real Mac.<p>So if you need 32 bit MacOS apps just run an older MacOS in an emulator.<p>On Windows they shut out 16 bit apps in 64 bit Windows but DOSBOX and Windows 3.1 under DOSBOX solve that via emulation.
graemeover 7 years ago
Is this the end of iwork 09?<p>I still have some manuscripts in Pages 09, as Pages 13 never added many of the features. I guess I&#x27;ll have to look for a new workflow.
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sashkover 7 years ago
Out of all apps I have I know of four which are 32-bit:<p>- 3 of them are from my (older?) Brother Printer. - 32-bit kdb+ I use sometime for calculations<p>I can live without them. :)
FraKtusover 7 years ago
Too bad that Apple never made AV Fondation having the same features than QuickTime... How can we add dynamically video codecs to macOS ? How can we extend the support of acquisition devices ? What API can we use to do video editing... How can we support ProRes on Windows in 64 bits ?
johncolanduoniover 7 years ago
I’m curious if they’ll drop support for 32-bit processes in the kernel or just stop shipping fat libraries.
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JohnTHallerover 7 years ago
Sadly, it appears this will kill most of the Wine projects on macOS. It&#x27;s a bummer as I&#x27;ve used it for a couple Windows projects to run on mac.
d1zzyover 7 years ago
Good luck with completely removing support to run 32 bit applications and all those 32 bit videogames (which is the vast majority of them). Or any other 32 bit application that won&#x27;t ever receive updates.
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shmerlover 7 years ago
So no more 32-bit games in Wine for macOS users? Another reason to switch to Linux for them.
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