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Paxos derived

161 pointsby r4umover 7 years ago

8 comments

no_identdover 7 years ago
Wow, that&#x27;s amazing. On the topic of fault tolerance and consensus, here&#x27;s a short but well done article on it:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ug93tad.github.io&#x2F;consensus&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ug93tad.github.io&#x2F;consensus&#x2F;</a><p>And on the topic of Paxos, some recent HN discussion:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16003662" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16003662</a> - WPaxos: a wide area network Paxos protocol<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13923949" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13923949</a> - Paxos in 25 Lines<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13950493" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13950493</a> - Gryadka is not Paxos, so it&#x27;s probably wrong [RETRACTED]
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jbellisover 7 years ago
Murat&#x27;s blog is underappreciated. One of the most approachable writers on distributed systems. Check out his full archives.
pkolaczkover 7 years ago
&quot;In sum, something &quot;fundamental&quot; changes when you want to go fault-tolerant and tolerate node failure in an asynchronous system. When you combine faults and full-asynchrony, you get the FLP impossibility result. That means you lose progress! That is why Paxos does not guarantee making progress under a full asynchronous model with a crash failure.&quot;<p>This is unclear to me. Egalitarian Paxos guarantees progress under a full asynchronous model and doesn&#x27;t have the dueling leaders problem. So this looks like a weakness of standard Paxos itself, not a fundamental problem.
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Cofikeover 7 years ago
I took Murat&#x27;s distributed system course at UB, awesome professor and really enjoyed his lectures.
CurtMonashover 7 years ago
Similarly, Max Zorn used to ask people whether they recalled what Zorn&#x27;s Lemma was introduced as a lemma to. (I haven&#x27;t a clue, and I doubt most of them did either.)
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Socketoppover 7 years ago
I have no idea what this is all about. Anyone care to give a simple explanation?
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canadianwriterover 7 years ago
Blogspot? Now there&#x27;s a TLD I haven&#x27;t seen in years...
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xchaoticover 7 years ago
Are we there yet? Do we need paxos-like consensus protocols? Hardware is becoming cheaper and commoditised and with all the hype around blockchain, it looks like people are ready to pay extra for the redundant hardware needed for 100% fault tolerance. Still, it feels to me to in almost all cases, including financial transactions, it&#x27;s good enough to be right 99.999% of the time and just amortise the costs of the very rare bit flip...
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