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Red Hat to Acquire CoreOS

997 pointsby noahlover 7 years ago

31 comments

gtirloniover 7 years ago
This makes sense. Red Hat has been investing in Project Atomic for a while now and CoreOS still seems like a better option, if you&#x27;re looking for a container-only OS that has been battle tested.<p>Additionally, both companies seem like good places to work, with leadership that&#x27;s often praised and has the results to show. I&#x27;m happy for CoreOS on this one, they&#x27;re joining a company that I admire.<p>Looking forward to see how this will impact RHEL8.
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jacques_chesterover 7 years ago
This is a good move for CoreOS and Red Hat, I think.<p>I&#x27;ve thought for a while that the platform market would shake out and be left with one and at most two winners. Previously we saw Deis fold into Microsoft and now CoreOS into Red Hat.<p>I expect that Docker will run independently for another few years before their investors realise it&#x27;s time to push for an acquisition exit, but it&#x27;s unclear by whom. I figure Heptio will go to one of Red Hat, Google or Microsoft.<p>As for CoreOS&#x27;s technologies, my guess is that Red Hat will be gently herding Tectonic and Container Linux users to OpenShift and RHEL respectively. About the only products I expect to survive fully intact would be Quay and etcd.<p>Disclosure: I work for Pivotal, we compete with Red Hat and Docker. So read my remarks with whatever mix of skepticism and mirth you think is appropriate.
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mankash666over 7 years ago
From a financial viewpoint, CoreOs took in an investment of ~$50M [1] and sold for $250M. Assuming the $50M investment comprised 50% of the equity pool, a 2.5X return on investment isn&#x27;t too bad.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.crunchbase.com&#x2F;organization&#x2F;coreos" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.crunchbase.com&#x2F;organization&#x2F;coreos</a>
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tomdecover 7 years ago
&quot;Red Hat Enterprise Linux’s content, the foundation of our application ecosystem will remain our only Linux offering. Whereas, some of the delivery mechanisms pioneered by Container Linux will be reviewed by a joint integration team and reconciled with Atomic.&quot;<p>So long, Container Linux, we hardly knew ye... ?
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merbover 7 years ago
well it would be cool if some of their stuff would be 100% open source than. Like the CoreUpdate interface.<p>But well CoreOS is already extremly extremly simple for running k8s and stuff.<p>We&#x27;ve used CoreOS basically from the beginning. We are small and so had a fleet cluster with 3 nodes. It worked, kinda but due to docker it wasn&#x27;t a nice experience. Docker just had a too fast changing cycle and to much things didn&#x27;t worked as we liked.<p>However now we run more and more internal stuff on k8s self hosted cluster and it&#x27;s basically a breeze. we use ignition to bootstrap the nodes and then we just need to run kubeadm join on every node. everything else is self configuring.<p>bootstrapping k8s was basically just 3x kubeadm init. with calico we can even bgp route every pod and can access them.<p>the only pain point is storage, but this is not a problem of coreos. small scale high available disks would be cool, but this is not an easy problem. we have nfs but it is not on k8s and minio is only good for object storage (and needs 4 nodes, while I would prefer a solution that uses either etcd or k8s configmap as a backing store for HA).<p>Edit: I completly forgotten. Thanks for all what you guys did and I hope you will be good under the RedHat umbrella.<p>(P.S.: if tectonic would be free to use for all sizes, that would be even more amazing, but I&#x27;m probably dreaming).
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grey-areaover 7 years ago
Not great news if you use container Linux:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.redhat.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;blog&#x2F;faq-red-hat-acquire-coreos" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.redhat.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;blog&#x2F;faq-red-hat-acquire-coreos</a><p><i>Container Linux and its investment in container-optimized Linux and automated “over the air” software updates are complementary to Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host and Red Hat’s integrated container runtime and platform management capabilities. Red Hat Enterprise Linux’s content, the foundation of our application ecosystem will remain our only Linux offering. Whereas, some of the delivery mechanisms pioneered by Container Linux will be reviewed by a joint integration team and reconciled with Atomic.</i>
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syvanenover 7 years ago
Blog post from Red Hat: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.redhat.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;blog&#x2F;coreos-bet" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.redhat.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;blog&#x2F;coreos-bet</a><p>Red Hat FAQ: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.redhat.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;blog&#x2F;faq-red-hat-acquire-coreos" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.redhat.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;blog&#x2F;faq-red-hat-acquire-coreos</a><p>CoreOS Blog post: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;coreos.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;coreos-agrees-to-join-red-hat&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;coreos.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;coreos-agrees-to-join-red-hat&#x2F;</a><p>(Added FAQ and CoreOS links)
pm90over 7 years ago
Red Hat acquired Ansible, now CoreOS. They seem to be really gunning for the DevOps marketplace.
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jedbergover 7 years ago
Congrats to Alex and his team! I&#x27;ve loved their technology since their alpha days. Glad to see it working out and hopefully getting into more hands with the acquisition.
mack1001over 7 years ago
Congratulations Alex &amp; co for a great exit. I think the price is great considering that it is pretty much impossible to survive as an independent company in the infra space.
gigatexalover 7 years ago
And they say there&#x27;s no money in open source... ;-)<p>Anyone want to wager that MS buys Canonical?
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thedevopsguyover 7 years ago
It&#x27;s all about Openshift. Redhat developers have actively contributed to Kubernetes for about two years now.<p>Now they&#x27;ll own the entire stack and have a great integration story for enterprises. Even though containers have been around 3+ year&#x27;s in the form of docker, corporations still don&#x27;t have a scooby on how to integrate their existing deployment and development workflows.
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anubhavmishraover 7 years ago
This is great news! I am not sure what happens to tectonic? Is is going to be part of OpenShift?
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wowtipover 7 years ago
Is this a good technical fit? Is this good for the tech community as a whole?<p>I am a bit disheartened to see discussions often going in the direction of big corporation politics &#x2F; power play, rather than how it benefits the community.
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michaelsbradleyover 7 years ago
I suspect an announcement re: Docker&#x27;s acquisition by a major tech player may follow closely on the heels of this news.
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stmwover 7 years ago
Great to see their innovation recognized and hopefully it will become even more popular &amp; widespread with RedHat&#x27;s distribution muscle and enterprise customer relationships.
sturadnidgeover 7 years ago
Congrats to the CoreOS team, although I’m a little bit sad to see this happen it’s a way better outcome than what happened with RethinkDB!
willow9886over 7 years ago
A quick D&amp;B search on CoreOS, Inc. shows revenues of ~$550,000 [1], which means at $250m acquisition price, RH paid ~454X revenues..!<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hoovers.com&#x2F;company-information&#x2F;company-search.html?term=coreos" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hoovers.com&#x2F;company-information&#x2F;company-search.ht...</a>
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wyldfireover 7 years ago
It seems like early 2018 is rife with acquisitions and mergers. Was the recent tax law a factor? Seems like these acquisitions take so much time that it couldn&#x27;t have been dependent on that. So why all this activity?
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fredlandover 7 years ago
Long live the Farm!
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codergrover 7 years ago
What i dont get is why Google ventures gave it ? Perhaps because CoreOS was based on chromeos and doesnt fit to fuschia OS and the new microkernel ? Anyways congrats to both RH &amp; CoreOS. RH got passionate people in love with problem and CoreOS Core team monetised the value and innovation which they shared openly to the community. Thanks CoreOS team good luck !
spraakover 7 years ago
Why was &quot;Expanding its Kubernetes and Containers Leadership&quot; removed from the title here when it is part of the original article title?
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tiuPapaover 7 years ago
I started learning about containerization just this week. I didn&#x27;t even know there were other popular alternatives to docker. So from what I gather, coreOS&#x2F;rkt is an alternative to alpine&#x2F;docker, with kubernetes instead of docker swarm as their primary orchestration solution?
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segmondyover 7 years ago
Happy for the team, sad for the product. I&#x27;ve always wondered how long they would survive for. I was actually afraid they would go out of business.
knutsterover 7 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=5Ln9RU1PLOA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=5Ln9RU1PLOA</a>
pankajdohareyover 7 years ago
Since it has Red Hat in its name now i dont feel like using it anymore. Would use BusyBox or Ubuntu Core instead.
sandGorgonover 7 years ago
i wonder if it will mean that coreos becomes the official server-side fedora to rhel ... and replaces the community powered centos.
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quotemstrover 7 years ago
So CoreOS&#x27;s claim to fame is that it _only_ runs containers? How is that useful? You can run containers on any distribution.
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justincliftover 7 years ago
Wondered when that would happen. ;)
simonebrunozziover 7 years ago
This should be in the title, by the way: &quot;for a purchase price of $250 million&quot;
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cdelsolarover 7 years ago
sup polvi