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Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up

59 pointsby atarianover 7 years ago

13 comments

jbogganover 7 years ago
&#x27;But Mr. Krug, at Pantera Capital, said that if Tether were really being used by investors, they would probably also want to buy new Tether when the markets were going up, which has not been the case. Also, they would not always want it in exact increments of $100 million, as has been the case.<p>“After you see this enough times, you just start to wonder what’s really going on here,” Mr. Krug said.&#x27;<p>I&#x27;d listen to the folks at Pantera, they are pretty sharp.
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cdetrioover 7 years ago
The article links to tetherreport.com<p>&gt; <i>We vary N from 1 to 24 hours and examine the p-values. [.....] there are a number of periods where the p-values are significantly below 0.05 and we reject the null hypothesis for those periods.</i><p>Is it p-hacking to vary N and find low p-values? If its not p-hacking, but a valid analysis with predictive power, then wouldn&#x27;t it make a good trading strategy to watch the tether wallet and buy btc whenever new issuance happens?
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olivermarksover 7 years ago
&quot;Long before news of the subpoena, Bitfinex, which is believed to host more trading than any other Bitcoin exchange in the world, had gained a reputation for a lack of transparency and a confusing structure, with European executives, offices in Asia and registration in the Caribbean.&quot;<p>Oh boy this sounds like the banking system I was hoping cryptocurrencies would supersede...
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thisisitover 7 years ago
&gt; Also, they would not always want it in exact increments of $100 million, as has been the case.<p>Not to question the Tether story but I don&#x27;t understand this line of argument. What is the problem with exact increments?<p>Sure, the tokens have to be issued only if the issuing conditions are met. But given the number of hacks, wouldn&#x27;t people want to use the issuing account sparingly? You know, use the issuing account to issue tokens in fixed increments to build up reserves. The move these reserves to be held in another account.
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brosirmandudeover 7 years ago
If tether pops, what happens?<p>Do people try to cash out immediately or do they flock to the &quot;stable&quot; coins like BTC or ETH?<p>To my knowledge the only thing you can trade tether for is other cryptocurrencies.
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jchookover 7 years ago
No way. When you look at the daily volume of the Bitfinex exchange, it is large... but not that large.
neuro_imagerover 7 years ago
Enough of this already...<p>If Tether doesn&#x27;t have the funds then its a lot like someone borrowed 2Billion to buy crypto and can&#x27;t pay it back.<p>Bitfinex will die, tether will die (just like other scam currencies like Bitconnect) but the market will come back after a correction.
mattcaldwellover 7 years ago
Tether&#x27;s market cap is around $2b... the crypto market as a whole clocks in at over $500b right now... what kind of effect could Tether really have, beyond the inevitable panic that will ensue?
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monus21over 7 years ago
So what is the likely outcome of the fallout of Tether and Bitfinex? I&#x27;m guessing the price of Bitcoin will fall drastically?
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ucaetanoover 7 years ago
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sjg007over 7 years ago
I really want bitcoin to succeed because it really is a great way to take back the power from corporations and the plutocracy we find ourselves in today. The fixed pool of bitcoins is slightly problematic.. would it not be better if the pool increased at 1% a year or so..? Gold made sense as a reserve since it formed a quorum among the various economies. The dollar makes sense now but so does bitcoin. The only issue I can&#x27;t resolve is the deflationary impact of hodling since there will only by 21 million coins.
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atarianover 7 years ago
@dang, this story was on the front page and then just disappeared. Was it removed intentionally? And if so, what was the reason?
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jacquesmover 7 years ago
&gt; Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up<p>Never looked at the NYT as a satirical publication.