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Ask HN: At which companies do programmers work less than 7 hours a day?

22 pointsby maruhan2over 7 years ago
It's pretty hard to find information on work hours for companies. Also since obviously the work hours on a particular day depends if you are in a busy period or not, I think an average across 6 months would be a pretty good estimate.

6 comments

itamarstover 7 years ago
Some options:<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.keyvalues.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.keyvalues.com&#x2F;</a> is great job board that has some companies that explicitly claim they have work&#x2F;life balance. The writeups let you see working hours in some cases, for good or for bad; make sure to read them, they all have different definitions of work&#x2F;life balance.<p>2. You can apply to any company that sounds like it&#x27;ll be reasonable, and if you get a job offer negotiate a shorter workweek. I&#x27;ve done this, and I also interviewed someone who did this at 7 or 8 different companies: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;08&#x2F;part-time-programmer&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;08&#x2F;part-time-programmer...</a><p>3. Negotiate a shorter workweek at your current job. Actually easier than finding a new job.<p>4. Just... work less hours. I.e. you&#x27;re at normal 40-hour&#x2F;week job, and you just work 7 hours a day. If you&#x27;re good at what you do you&#x27;ll be just as productive, if not more. I did that involuntarily at some point due to RSI limiting how many hours I could type. No one complained about shorter hours because I was productive enough. Downside is companies often judge you by hours in office, not by output (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;06&#x2F;21&#x2F;why-company-want-long-hours&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;06&#x2F;21&#x2F;why-company-want-lon...</a>).<p>I cover these and other approaches in my book: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;saneworkweek&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;saneworkweek&#x2F;</a>
chatmastaover 7 years ago
All of them. Some have their butts in their seats for longer than that, but very few employees are generating 7+ hours of productive work on a daily basis for any extended period of time.
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jlengrandover 7 years ago
In the Netherlands, it&#x27;s pretty typical to work 32 hours a week. Over 5 days, that&#x27;s less than 7 hours a day. Though most people prefer having 8 times 4 and take a day off :)
some_accountover 7 years ago
In Sweden at a big company, your day as a programmer usually has a few meetings and a lot of social interaction with colleagues. Maybe you get 3-4 hours of programming every day if you are lucky and can focus in the noisy open office environment. Im in the office about 7 hours every day. Salary is excellent for Swedish standards and living costs.
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skylarkover 7 years ago
Less than 7 hours (6 or less) is typically considered a part time arrangement. If you&#x27;re a high performer, you can try to negotiate for this kind of situation, but it&#x27;s rare to start a job with that type of benefit. You should expect to lose a proportionate amount of your salary, (keep in mind that depending on your tax bracket, the percentage hit to your take home will be less affected.)<p>The benefit of being officially on part time is that it sets everyone&#x27;s expectations and shouldn&#x27;t negatively impact your promotion trajectory, especially if you&#x27;re able to fulfill your duties on a part time schedule.
segmondyover 7 years ago
The broke ones. :)
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