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Ask a real musician: opera singer dissects top 5 metal singers

186 pointsby hernan7over 14 years ago

12 comments

icarus_drowningover 14 years ago
I teach music for a living (theory/voice), and I have to say, I feel like this validates a lot of my techniques when working with students.<p>Virtually all of my students want to sing pop/rock/etc. music when they first come in. My usual approach is to agree to work primarily in the genre of their choice, but to have <i>some</i> "classical" training as well. I largely due this in order to promote healthy singing, whatever the genre, so that no matter what kind of music they want to sing, they are at least not harming their voices.<p>Notice that almost all of Friedlander's comments focus on the relaxation of the vocal mechanism ("Like the first singer, he performs with perfect legato, clear diction, and a consistent, organic vibrancy. He arranges his resonance space to create a shallow snarl without setting up any resistance for his breath", etc). I've found that, above all, some classical training seems to reinforce this, allowing students to create resonance rather than merely screaming, to avoid straining at the edge of their ranges, and to approach all genres with a strong grasp of basic music skills. Of course, all of this also improves their basic technique immensely-- pitch, diction, and aural skills are usually highly improved as well.
invisorangesover 14 years ago
Hi guys - I run the site, and indeed HN caused a temporary meltdown (thanks for the link!) As of 9pm EST Aug. 23, it's back up, so feel free to visit, comment, etc. Again, thanks for the flattering mention!
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treefaceover 14 years ago
Great stuff. I can't get over her reaction to Black Sabbath's 1970 song "War Pigs"...<p>Initial reaction: “Fourth guy is just bad throaty singing… Made my throat tight to listen to him. How long did his career last?”
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CWuestefeldover 14 years ago
Page seems dead; here's the Google cache: <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.invisibleoranges.com%2F2010%2F07%2Fask-a-real-musician-5-classic-male-metal-singers%2F" rel="nofollow">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http%3A...</a><p>This was interesting. I wonder how much she was reaching to find something positive to say, because I would have though that, but for Dickinson, they all are rough. But then, I don't have any formal training or expertise myself.<p>I'd like to hear a real expert's comments on modern metal virtuosos, like Warrell Dane or Roy Khan. Anybody with real knowledge care to venture an opinion?
mhdover 14 years ago
I was a bit scared about what she'd consider the "top 5", but that's actually pretty okay, although I wonder how King Diamond got in there. Not the one known for his singing, and I don't think he's in the best-selling or longest-running band. But it was a different style, and one that at least contains a bit more than sheer endurance (c.f. most growlers).<p>I was surprised at the high marks Dickenson got. Not that I don't hold him in high esteem personally, but he's the only one where I know of a direct connection to opera singing. It must've been a Freddy Mercury tribute, where he sang Bohemian Rhapsody with Montserrat Cabbalé. And as opposed to her previous duet with Freddy ("Barcelona"), those voices didn't mesh at all.<p>Really nice article, I always thought that trained opera singers tend to look down upon those doing less "serious" work. Just shows you that there's more than one way to skin a cat, which is why this actually fits nicely into HN.
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aconover 14 years ago
This is really great. I just had to fill my Spotify queue with Iron Maiden and try to sing along. Singing is one of those skills I really regret not having, but I sing anyway.
jacquesmover 14 years ago
The site seems to be overloaded though, a HN induced meltdown?
noahthover 14 years ago
interesting article, would love to see more like this! for example, i'd be curious to hear her take on phil anselmo.
wazooxover 14 years ago
I don't know much about Heavy Metal, but this gave me a strong urge to buy a couple of these albums :)
technomancyover 14 years ago
Wonder what she'd say about Falconer.
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jksmithover 14 years ago
Jack Black should be in the conversation somewhere. The dude doesn't even need a microphone.
ufomuffinover 14 years ago
Hm, yeah in music there aren't any rules, putting a 'real' musician to give her opinion should be considered a just for fun thing.
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