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Self-driving car on Moscow streets after snowfall [video]

195 pointsby atrudeauover 7 years ago

24 comments

ocdtrekkieover 7 years ago
If anyone was going to focus on making sure their self-driving car could drive in snow, it&#x27;d be the Russians.<p>Mind you, self-driving when snow has coated all your landmarks is definitely impressive, but the title made me think it&#x27;d be driving <i>in snow</i>. Which it isn&#x27;t. The roads are, what we&#x27;d call in Chicago, &quot;clear&quot;. The car is not driving in&#x2F;on snow or ice in this scenario, which is something I do regularly every winter.
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tw04over 7 years ago
I&#x27;m sorry - this isn&#x27;t a &quot;heavy snowfall&quot; in Moscow. It&#x27;s just barely a dusting. That isn&#x27;t even an inch of accumulation. Being able to self-drive when there is black pavement to be seen isn&#x27;t impressive in the least. Show me a self-driving car functioning in white-out conditions (which is what Moscow faces on a regular basis, as does a large portion of the US) and I&#x27;ll be impressed.<p>This: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bgr.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;06&#x2F;moscow-snow-russia-winter-storm&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bgr.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;06&#x2F;moscow-snow-russia-winter-storm&#x2F;</a><p>Is what it looked like ~two weeks ago. Show me your self-driving car in THAT.
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neutered_knotover 7 years ago
If you look closely the car is driving in circles. They revisit the same roads many times in just a few block radius.
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lnanek2over 7 years ago
I&#x27;d love for it to be true, but it&#x27;s tough to believe that&#x27;s real. There&#x27;s one point where a pedestrian is standing in the snow on the road just to the side of where the car would pass: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Bx08yRsR9ow?t=35s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Bx08yRsR9ow?t=35s</a><p>Wouldn&#x27;t any pedestrian detection decide the person in the road has priority and stop and let them cross? It isn&#x27;t capable of reading a person&#x27;s intention to stand there vs. cross or not.<p>The title claims it supports interactions with pedestrians, and the video does seem to show it pausing in the middle of a turn once for a pedestrian in the road, but that could be easily faked by having the driver still using manual breaks.
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ckdarbyover 7 years ago
If that is after a heavy snowfall they need to test in Canada.
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seeekrover 7 years ago
So this video features a self-driving car developed by Yandex. Does someone have insight into why so many big tech companies seem to all be in agreement that developing self-driving cars is an area they need to be pursuing? Is it mostly everyone looking at what Google is doing and replicating that? Or is it the getting swept up by the Uber hype? Or is working on self-driving car software just such a natural extension to what these tech companies have been doing all along in their main areas of expertise anyway?<p>(I feel like this question must have been brought up a number of times already, since these projects have been going on for a while by now.)
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vpribishover 7 years ago
technically correct title (the best kind!) - but clickbaity because everyone wants to see a serious test of self-driving on snow-covered, icy roads, ideally with actually blinding, falling snow - at night. This is, if anything, even easier than a non-snowy drive because of the high contrast between the completely clear road and the snow-dusted sidewalks.<p>The dream that the developers, the media, and many of us share is to change the world by making driving a thing people do not do. Matching a human driver in the most treacherous conditions is a major, and unmet milestone. This is a misleading post.
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bmerover 7 years ago
Anyone else find it strange how still the one hand in view is? It never moves...
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golergkaover 7 years ago
I live in the neighborhood; these streets are all around Yandex headquarters. It&#x27;s one of the best districts in the whole city, streets rigorously cleaned, very light traffic and surprisingly cultured drivers. Even after recent record-breaking snowfalls, these streets were very clear short after.<p>Would love to see them trying to drive anywhere else in the city though.
gaurx003over 7 years ago
Compared to here in Minnesota, those roads look very clean - no drifting snow, no dry salt lines, no black ice.
BugsJustFindMeover 7 years ago
This is heavy snowfall? It looks like only an inch or two.
Piskvorrrover 7 years ago
Wonder what&#x27;s that thing at 1:40 ;) &quot;at turn, wipers suddenly full tilt for no apparent reason, person gives input to the right paddle&quot; - yes, I know that control normally sends CAN messages for wiper operation in all modern cars, and that it wouldn&#x27;t make sense to release a video with overt manipulation of the system; I have been conditioned to look for side channels though, and this is technically a human giving a driving-related input.<p>But seriously, what does the car need the wipers for? All the sensors are outside anyway, no?
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tyingqover 7 years ago
The hardest human equivalent in New England in my youth, was a 4 way stop at the peak of a steep hill. Would have loved to seen this scenario with the self driving car.
M_Bakhtiariover 7 years ago
I wonder how it handles those erratic Ladas flying at you from all directions.
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pvaldesover 7 years ago
I hope that this is not the normal speed of the video. It looks a dangerous situation for pedestrians to me, specially in urban roads and streets.
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thriftwyover 7 years ago
It&#x27;s actually area around Yandex&#x27;s main Moscow campus, Red Rose. I have walked there countless times when we went out for dinner.
EADGBEover 7 years ago
Would love to see how it performs before the plows reveal the pavement.<p>This isn’t as impressive as I was led to believe. Those roads are completely exposed!
mizzaoover 7 years ago
Next up...self-driving car dashcam videos!
chemodaxover 7 years ago
Most of the trip speed is 25 km&#x2F;h, while speed limit in Moscow is 60 km&#x2F;h.
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timviseeover 7 years ago
I like how the car alows down a lot when squeezing through tight gaps
Jyaifover 7 years ago
Why do people think that driving on snow&#x2F;ice is going to be a challenge? Compared to recognizing the cars, lights, pedestrians, and their intention, that&#x27;s pretty straightforward.
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mitjakover 7 years ago
I want to see AI trained to drive like people in Russia: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;wDhO25d.gif" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;wDhO25d.gif</a>
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jijojvover 7 years ago
WoW - This looks more real than than the Tesla FSD which many have been scammed into buying which is years away.
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dmvaldmanover 7 years ago
In Soviet Russia, car drives you.