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Face-verify.js: Monitoring who is physically looking at a website

115 pointsby thetall0neover 7 years ago

17 comments

jstanleyover 7 years ago
Please, no. This <i>has</i> to be a parody.<p>&gt; Banks don’t want private account details (like the user’s current balance and credit limits etc) being seen by anybody other than the account holder.<p>This is <i>exactly</i> the kind of justification they&#x27;d use. And surprise surprise there won&#x27;t be a box that says &quot;I&#x27;d rather risk somebody seeing my account details than have a biometric model of my face stored in your database and given to whoever you give it to&quot;.
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nootropicatover 7 years ago
Black Mirror predicted this in a much more realistic business case - forcing users to view ads.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=QleMXX24v5g&amp;t=52s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=QleMXX24v5g&amp;t=52s</a>
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wgerardover 7 years ago
There&#x27;s something about software like this that really creeps me out, even though I realize it&#x27;s not ridiculously advanced (i.e. it&#x27;s way more common than I think) anymore. That might just be a personal aversion, though. I can imagine useful scenarios for this even if I get a bit of an icky feeling from it.<p>My co-founder and I have talked about things like this as an &quot;anti-cheating&quot; measure (we developed a take-home assessment platform), but it always feels way too overboard and invasive for an exaggerated problem (and I&#x27;m just against it in pretty much every way imaginable).<p>Interestingly this somehow feels better than overt measures like ProctorU, but that&#x27;s an emotional reaction and not a logical one. In some ways it&#x27;s probably much worse.
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xoriover 7 years ago
Am I the only one who doesn&#x27;t quite understand the point?<p>I would assume you wouldn&#x27;t <i>only</i> use this tech to secure information. But I don&#x27;t see really how this adds any security when software cams exist.<p>Plus you have other issues, like people like me who work in low light, or picture frames in the shot, etc.<p>Cool hobby project though.
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bbarnover 7 years ago
So what stops me from creating a device that registers itself as a webcam natively, but just puts a loop of a pre-recorded video that satisfies the face recognition software?<p>Stop trying to find solutions to problems that aren&#x27;t real.
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exabrialover 7 years ago
If you can be prosecuted for storing someone&#x27;s diagnostic medical images improperly under HIPAA law, this seems like a VERY risky thing for a company to implement.
danjocover 7 years ago
Coursera required face verification recently. Once I found out, I had my course fee refunded and have not signed up for another course.
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txshover 7 years ago
Do people realy think identities are stolen by criminals peaking over shoulders?<p>And, if so, couldn’t they use a camera, or mirror, or periscope to bypass this software?
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cocochanelover 7 years ago
No! No! No! How much more intrusive do we need to get seriously? This is a naive solution to the problem stated. And a bad one at it, too.
nitwit005over 7 years ago
&gt; Banks don’t want private account details (like the user’s current balance and credit limits etc) being seen by anybody other than the account holder.<p>Unless it&#x27;s an in-person interaction, a face has little security value, because it&#x27;s not a secret. Getting a photo, or even full motion video of someone often just requires finding their Instagram page.
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jageenover 7 years ago
How much secure this will be ?<p>My concern is what if some one show my digital photo to the website, will framework detect it ?<p>Apple said that they over come this by using true depth technology (which i guess required specific hardware).<p>I like the idea thought, but there is a big reason people did not implemented this before.
thetall0neover 7 years ago
I think this is really about having powerful machine learning tools like face recognition, image recognition, content personalization and recommendation etc. in the browser.
cmaureirover 7 years ago
Technologically speaking: Yeah, that&#x27;s a nice feature. Real world: This will be awful, I really don&#x27;t want any DB to have a photo of me associated with transaction or authentification. Yes, I do have profile pictures, but allowing a service to get a &quot;stream&quot; of your face will be way worse, and I cannot imagine what would happen if this DB get compromised...anyway...still a nice Black Mirror episode though..
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ycmjasonover 7 years ago
What happens if I do inspect elements and remove styling? :D
tzaholaover 7 years ago
We <i>obviously</i> need to make this tech mandatory. You wouldn’t want your children looking at harmful websites, would you?
desireco42over 7 years ago
I see we will soon stop putting stickers on camera holes, but will use screwdrivers to pry them out and remove them. :)
no1youknowzover 7 years ago
I can see from a privacy standpoint, this may cause some concern.<p>However, from a credit card processor point of view and combating &quot;friendly fraud&quot;. This could be an excellent tool to prevent that.<p>For example. The scenario where a transaction has been processed and 6 weeks later, it is disputed because the card holder doesn&#x27;t recognise the transaction. Perhaps the wife used the husbands card whilst he was in the shower, for [insert candy crush clone].<p>A capture of the users face would definitely help the merchant win the representment against Visa&#x2F;Mastercard.<p>In a scenario where goods are being shipped cross-border. Lets say from China to the US and it&#x27;s for a large amount. Then this could be an extra step, where the data hasn&#x27;t passed a certain threshold and thus further information is required. Having a real-time snapshot and validation to prove the card holder is legitimate. Ensures the transaction goes through.<p>Ultimately, I do understand it&#x27;s about weighing privacy concerns. But that doesn&#x27;t mean some good can&#x27;t come out from this.
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