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Launch HN: Slite (YC W18) – Note App for Teams

127 pointsby christophepasabout 7 years ago
Hi HN! I&#x27;m Chris, founder of Slite (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slite.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slite.com</a>). We’re building a tool for modern teams to write down and retrieve things that matter.<p>I&#x27;ve launched two companies in the past and basically ran them on note-taking apps. The first was a hiring SaaS and the second an on-demand fashion-delivery service, and while the two were pretty different, I needed to write down a lot of stuff: interview notes, mentoring, email and article drafts, notes on customers and so on.<p>I had this habit because notes are versatile, incredibly user-friendly, and immediate. They made up my personal knowledge base but the biggest frustration I had was sharing those with teammates. So I decided to build a note app that would work with teams from day 1.<p>This is in line with the current problems in team collaboration. A lot of people were thrilled to dump email to get on Slack, but recent conversation has shifted towards Slack killing team productivity and leading to loss of information. This topic even trended on HN a week ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16355454" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16355454</a>.<p>We’re building an asynchronous writing tool for teams to organize their work with one simple yet crucial goal in mind: make sure teams stop losing valuable information and find it more quickly. We want to remove the back and forth you have on Slack, via email or even offline to find information.<p>We use the same channels pattern as Slack, mainly because this avoids the folders structure where content is hard to find, organize and where permissions are a nightmare. But using Slite allows you to separate use cases: channel chat a la IRC or Slack to communicate instantly, Slite to write and retrieve information.<p>Another major product focus is search: existing tools such as Google Docs or Dropbox Paper make it hard to organize and navigate through content (not to mention Slack where everything get lost between cat gifs). We put huge efforts on making it seamless in Slite.<p>With these basic differences we&#x27;ve already convinced hundreds of teams and thousands of active users to switch their content over from Google Docs, Dropbox Paper or other tools. We’re now entering a new phase where we’re focusing on integrations, allowing teams to push and access their information from anywhere in their workflows.<p>It’s an exciting time and we’d love for you to check it out and give us your feedback. And we&#x27;re eager to hear your ideas in this space. Please share your thoughts in the comments!

29 comments

alexjrayabout 7 years ago
Another note app?<p>I get that this is a massive problem space but with dropbox, notion, google and loads of other companies working on the exact same thing.... I have a hard time understanding why Y Combinator accepts companies like these.<p>Either way, excited to try it out; sounds like you&#x27;ve put a lot of BS&amp;T into this.
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tarr11about 7 years ago
Looking at this page, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slite.com&#x2F;use-cases" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slite.com&#x2F;use-cases</a>, I feel like this kind of product is an anti-pattern. The reason that it&#x27;s hard to find things in slack or docs is because these apps do not well understand the underlying structure of the data and so are relegated to either full-text search, or some sort of naive clustering algorithm. Although Slack has made some advances here - such as adding context-specific buttons for actions.<p>Will Slite do a better job at understanding our bug reports than Github? Or understanding our applicant tracking system then Greenhouse? Our customer support than Zendesk? Every one of these tools have a search feature.<p>The value of Google Docs is that it stays out of my way, lets me create freeform notes, and integrates with the rest of Google. Probably the same for Paper, or any other team notes solution. Once something gets complex enough, creates work for teams, or is mission critical, it either needs to be actively managed by a team member, or move into an automated tool that does that management for us. I can&#x27;t imagine the solution would be to centralize all these disparate workflows in a tool like this.
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joeboabout 7 years ago
Your templates feature is useful and seems to be missing in most notes apps I&#x27;ve looked at. We are looking for a tool to create our playbooks in and then track the execution of instances of those plays. For example, a &quot;onboarding playbook&quot; can be cloned for each instance of a hire.<p>Similarly, we and many other companies have their own custom project lifecycle which would be a useful template to be able to create and track for each project.
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gregwebsabout 7 years ago
This looks exactly like Confluence (no doubt it is better designed in various ways). Here is a Quora question asking for Confluence alternatives (Slite listed). [1]<p>Right now I am really impressed with how coda.io creates documents with structured data, which is a different paradigm that overlaps with some note taking applications.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.quora.com&#x2F;Are-there-any-modern-confluence-alternatives-Are-there-wiki-CRM-solutions-out-there-that-meet-modern-expectations-of-content-creation-but-allow-wiki-style-organization-navigation-and-search" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.quora.com&#x2F;Are-there-any-modern-confluence-altern...</a>
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samiralajmovicabout 7 years ago
Why do you need the permission &quot;View your contacts&quot; (Google Contacts) when signing up? I would sign up and try the product but I&#x27;m not going to disclose all my contacts.
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andrew_wc_brownabout 7 years ago
A Knowledge&#x2F;Note based system is very useful for teams.<p>On my own personal project where I have a team of 8 I tried Gitbook but when I lost a bunch of stuff do with git pull that override my local changes I really disliked Gitbook.<p>I convinced my work to get on Confluence so we at least have a knowledge base. I find Confluence like all Atlassian products clunky, slow and cumbersome to navigate.<p>I really liked Backpack, however its dated and structuralized for an older workflow.<p>I look at Slite and think, does it handle code blocks well? Is it navigation easy and feels fast? How clunky is the rich text editor?<p>I personally don&#x27;t like the look, the open source outline looks more professional. I would have borrow design elements from Discord than Slack.<p>To me this is a gimmick of piggybacking on the familiarity of slack channels to take something that has already existed (collaborative note and note-like apps). An old tool for a new generation.<p>Since I&#x27;ve built my open-source HTML5 game in Electron I feel I could whip up my own note-taking app because my feeling is I&#x27;m not going to be sold on either Outline or Slite.<p>I went to connect with my Google Account As soon as Slite asked to view my Contacts, I stopped. Its like asking to see someone&#x27;s facebook on a first date. No Thank you.<p>So I go and check Outline, since its open-source but you have to have a slack account and create a Slack App, No Thank you.<p>I guess I should build my own.
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sebleonabout 7 years ago
This is awesome. As a Bear power user, I’ve been looking for a collaborative note-app that just works. Haven’t gotten a beta invite yet for mobile app (key imo), but this seems promising!
aaronbrethorstabout 7 years ago
It&#x27;s interesting to me that you don&#x27;t mention Evernote anywhere in your description, here.
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AndrewConnabout 7 years ago
Don’t listen to the people that say “Ugh, not another notes&#x2F;docs app”. They way you’re thinking about the problem and how you’re solving it, I believe, are right. Your product reminds me a lot of Quip... which Salesforce bought for ~$750M.
ckluisabout 7 years ago
Hi Chris! We all need better documentation&#x2F;knowledge-base software&#x2F;processes. I personally love workflowy, but have always admired the idea of gingkoapp.<p>Have you tried to think about hierarchical data like gingkoapp?<p>How about &quot;structured data&quot; do you have the idea of templates that require these xx data points?<p>A melding of the &quot;content blocks&quot; from project Gutenberg for WordPress &amp; Gingkoapp&#x27;s hierarchical data would make for a killer knowledge-base I&#x27;d gladly part with money to have personally &amp; professionally.
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whoisjuanabout 7 years ago
Would you ever provide exporting&#x2F;importing mechanisms for people to migrate out of tools like Confluence? Is that something on the roadmap?
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elvinyungabout 7 years ago
Not to be a shill, but this feels extremely similar to Notion [1] -- in fact I&#x27;m failing to see substantiative differences in the collaboration interfaces, the freeform editing, etc. How does it differentiate?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;</a>
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bachmeierabout 7 years ago
This doesn&#x27;t look the same as other tools to me. Maybe that&#x27;s just a comment HN folk make out of habit.<p>One way to get exposure for this product would be to have academic pricing. The current pricing means it wouldn&#x27;t be used for teaching, but with a low enough price, it might work.
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grvdrmabout 7 years ago
Hi Chris -- the app looks great, nice work. Aesthetically similar to Slack, for sure, but there are some obvious differences as well.<p>Curious if you talk more about your target market? This feels geared toward smaller start-up like orgs that may already have something similar&#x2F;have no legacy tie-ups.<p>However, have you thought about teams in larger enterprises that are likely to be hooked into the use of Microsoft Word&#x2F;Excel, and especially Outlook, and may use something like Skype for internal chat? Think there are numerous folks (like me) who are on top of newer&#x2F;interesting tech but have to fight hard to move people away from their habits.<p>Further example: would you build or allow access to legacy Exchange servers?
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CocoaGeekabout 7 years ago
This is nice. A little hesitant to migrate to something that may not be around in a few months ... Not to be the voice of doom, but it&#x27;s a legitimate concern IMHO (this isn&#x27;t the first note web app) ...
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danvoellabout 7 years ago
I like the concept. IMO, the keys are going to be 1.) Showing how you differ from Slack 2.)simplifying, I&#x27;m already overwhelmed but I get what you are trying to do. and 3.)Ubiquity of the templates. Make it easy to make, clone, share, track them.<p>Edit: A few small quips. Audit how you use the word public. That&#x27;s going to scare people. I assume you mean make the channel read&#x2F;write for other members of my slite, not the public at large.<p>Someone else had this idea in the comments, I would also second the motion that adding controlled fields (select from drop down) could help with templates.<p>Good luck!
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goertzenabout 7 years ago
Ok, got it working on desktop. But now I&#x27;m seeing something else that concerns me a bit.<p>I used my @gmail account to sign up and now I&#x27;m seeing 2 companies listed as groups I can join. I assume that&#x27;s because these people also used @gmail accounts to create those team accounts. Either way, even with the email verification it seems like you wouldn&#x27;t want to list all the companies that match the domain.
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marlonmisraabout 7 years ago
We&#x27;ve been using Slite for ~3 weeks. I highly recommend it - much better organization, useful templates, and by far the best UI in the space.
toifizabout 7 years ago
Does it support offline mode ?<p>In my company, the sales team is often int the customer&#x27;s building (for example for a demo) and often there is no wifi or any internet connection. So, we&#x27;re looking for a documentation system that can be synchronized when opened and works perfectly offline (including full-text search).<p>At this moment, we are testing Microsoft OneNote.
kervabout 7 years ago
How do you compare with Confluence? Are you just trying to provide a better ease of use?
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goertzenabout 7 years ago
Congrats Chris! Look forward to trying it. But as of now, I’m getting this error.<p>{&quot;data&quot;:null,&quot;errors&quot;:{&quot;message&quot;:&quot;Cannot destructure property `MAILCHIMP_API_KEY` of &#x27;undefined&#x27; or &#x27;null&#x27;.&quot;}}
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o_____________oabout 7 years ago
Do you have any plans for self-hosting or E2EE?
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orliesaurusabout 7 years ago
i like the templates and reminds me a lot of the &quot;Trello prebuilt boards&quot; shared by the community - best of luck !
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viperscapeabout 7 years ago
Looks like OneNote <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;onenote.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;onenote.com</a>
sAbakumoffabout 7 years ago
&gt;We’re building a tool for modern teams to write down and retrieve things that matter.<p>Do you re-invent paper?
ramonabout 7 years ago
What about Evernote Business?
atombenderabout 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve been looking for a collaborative alternative to Evernote (which is terribly) and Google Docs (which is very functional, but in many ways terrible) for some time, and I&#x27;ve also looked at Notion. Slite looks beautiful, and the on-boarding is slick. But it fails in too many ways, just like Notion.<p>Slite channels don&#x27;t scale beyond a few notes. Like Evernote, the sidebar becomes a hard-to-navigate, endlessly scrolling list of stuff, and search becomes the only way to find what you want, which is of course terrible for discovery. There&#x27;s no grouping mechanism where order matters. &quot;Collections&quot; are sorted, but only by title or date, not manually. So there&#x27;s no way to collate and <i>publish</i> information. Google Docs, of course, has the same problem.<p>This is one area where Notion is marginally better, since pages have an inherent order, so you can build &quot;books&quot; of content (e.g. technical documentation, project plans, etc.). But you still have to manually create the navigation, since tables of contents aren&#x27;t made for you. In Slite, publishing anything that has structure is basically impossible — everything is just a sea of notes. Another problem with Slite and Notion is that there are, inherently, <i>types</i> of notes&#x2F;pages, but there&#x27;s no way to classify them except possibly by tag. A set of meeting notes != a project plan != a scrapbook of possible office furniture != a todo list. And so on.<p>The more I think about apps like Evernote and Slite, the more I think the idea of note as an independent unit of information is wrong — unless all you do is write notes that have a short life cycle, like shopping lists. To build an organization around information, the information model has to be powerful. For example, a common use case shown in screenshots for Slite and other products is the idea of a checklist. We&#x27;re doing a project, we have to have some designs, do some marketing, do some development. We create an outline:<p><pre><code> [ ] Hire intern to work on leaflets </code></pre> What&#x27;s a thing that happens? Someone wants to comment on a specific task. So you have some person writing it into the document:<p><pre><code> [ ] Hire intern to work on leaflets *(who&#x27;s gonna do this? Brad??!)* </code></pre> then:<p><pre><code> [ ] Hire intern to work on leaflets *(who&#x27;s gonna do this? Brad??!)* I&#x27;m on it — Liz :) </code></pre> And off it goes. There&#x27;s an inherent underlying data model here (checklists) expressed as a freely editable WYSIWYG bullet list. Documents like these quickly turn into messy junk, like a whiteboard full of scribbles, because people are all over it. Google Docs has an annotation feature for this, but it doesn&#x27;t scale at all.<p>I&#x27;ve looked through the product tour and tons of screenshots looking for what people are actually using Slite for, and I mostly see disorder. Meeting notes, sure. Project planning, todo list, bugs, scrapbooking, wiki-type tech docs... none of it seems appropriate for Slite, which leaves me wondering what I <i>could</i> use it for. I don&#x27;t need another poor Evernote, I don&#x27;t think anyone does, even if it&#x27;s nicer-looking.<p>At one point I wondered if Slite could be useful for scrapbooking (example use case: collecting tons of inspirational material for guide one&#x27;s interior design directions for the company office; another is collecting a bunch of products for comparison before whittling down candidates for purchase), but it&#x27;s unfortunately not. You can&#x27;t even drag and drop files into the web page, and once you&#x27;ve uploaded a file or image to the page, it cannot be moved around or copied&#x2F;pasted (!).<p>Notion at least gets one kind of useful data model right, which is that of a wiki. Interlinking is, strangely enough, a buried feature (to you have to click on &quot;Copy Link&quot; of a page, then paste that, to get an inline link), but it&#x27;s there.
edelansabout 7 years ago
Congrats Chris ! So many things achieved since last year. I&#x27;m impressed. Keep it up !
avivabout 7 years ago
Does this do anything that Quip doesn&#x27;t?
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