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Language Learning for the Dispassionate

112 pointsby wkrauseabout 7 years ago

18 comments

peterburkimsherabout 7 years ago
Do you want content for Chinese? I have a lot of data I&#x27;ve gathered for use with <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;pingtype.github.io" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;pingtype.github.io</a> that I&#x27;d be willing to share (and I admit that your web design is better than mine).<p>Learning Chinese has a lot more initial barriers, which I explain more in this blog post:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pingtype.github.io&#x2F;docs&#x2F;failed.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pingtype.github.io&#x2F;docs&#x2F;failed.html</a>
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ff_about 7 years ago
Looks like OP is the author behind the app, so I would suggest adding a &quot;Show HN&quot; to the title, for more kudos and feedback.<p>That said, congrats for the good work! I really like the idea, and I feel this problem very much. Currently picking up Swedish, and unable to find easy enough news worth reading every day, so I&#x27;m a bit stuck at that level &quot;able to understand a bit but not enough to read everything&quot;.<p>Do you happen to have a roadmap about the addition of new languages? If Swedish was there I would totally go Pro.
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kaycebasquesabout 7 years ago
Looks cool, thanks for sharing.<p>Duolingo Spanish has a new &quot;Stories&quot; section that quizzes you in the context of a story.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stories.duolingo.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stories.duolingo.com&#x2F;</a><p>I&#x27;m also digging their new Podcast, which tells stories, NPR-style, alternating between Spanish and English.
tzsabout 7 years ago
Nit pick: shouldn&#x27;t marginal utility be the first derivative of total utility? That bend in the marginal utility near &quot;ventriloquist&quot; looks wrong to me given the total utility shown.
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Treegardenabout 7 years ago
I have been working on something very similar for the past year.<p>I first build this prototype with the goal of generating sentences and then analysing the user translation because I wanted a feature to see if the user knows the word even though he misspelled it.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ling-academy.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ling-academy.com&#x2F;</a><p>I finished that 3 months ago, received feedback but its just a proof of concept and since then have been building v2 which is very similar to what you have build - the idea is to have users learn vocab and then match them up with fitting text. This v2 is almost done but not deployed yet.<p>I do however plan on going much much further then this. I have been looking for a co-founder who is also invested into e-learning and language learning. Maybe we should team up? Email is:<p>Michael . baumgarn at gmail . com
IIAOPSWabout 7 years ago
Thank you so much for this. I&#x27;m an unabashed linguistic philistine. I see language at best as a useful tool and find no more beauty in it than I do in a hammer. But I&#x27;m also a long term expat and I feel kind of rude barging into these countries, taking the jobs and the women and not adapting the culture at all. This is exactly what I need.<p>Before now I&#x27;ve half-heartedly tried to write a script that would give flash cards based on a combination of word frequency in common texts and the amount of times I&#x27;ve gotten the word correct in the past. It didn&#x27;t work. I should try your app.
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badtupleabout 7 years ago
Can you go into any detail around how you curate the Portuguese content? The icon has both the Brazilian and Portuguese flag. One thing I&#x27;ve had difficulty with is that there&#x27;s just enough differences between the two that mixing them can be confusing while learning. Lack of European Portuguese is why I basically dropped Duolingo and settled on just reading books&#x2F;listening to music. The dialects are super similar to those who already know the language, but when even basic nouns differ it can get hard!<p>Just downloaded the app and it&#x27;s awesome. Thanks for making it!
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joshlemerabout 7 years ago
Thanks for this! It&#x27;s nice to see more tools out there for advanced language learners because, like the article states, it sure is a long slog isn&#x27;t it. I especially am happy to see that this app adds the Lemma <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lemma_(morphology)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lemma_(morphology)</a> of the new vocabulary to the spaced-repetition flashcards rather than the particular form it appears in on the page. That has taken up a lot of my time with other similar apps.
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norriusabout 7 years ago
The idea sounds great, but the app description definitely should have mentioned what languages are available. I spent five minutes fighting with the faulty OAuth only to find that German is not offered.
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xingpedabout 7 years ago
Any plans to support Asian languages?
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mellingabout 7 years ago
For those interested in languages, I’ve got an iOS Word Search game that allows you to play in English, French, German, Italian, and Spanish.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;itunes.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;h4labs-word-search&#x2F;id1311744075?mt=8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;itunes.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;h4labs-word-search&#x2F;id1311744...</a><p>I noticed that there is some interest in Russian here. I can add that in the future. There wasn’t enough room on the controller so I left it out.
t3h2masabout 7 years ago
I hope that language education services don&#x27;t forget the desktop experience. As someone who spends 8h a day online, I have times where I go home and don&#x27;t want to look at a screen.<p>I want a good desktop experience. I&#x27;d love something that would ping me every few hours to make me exercise my language practice.
adrianNabout 7 years ago
The Internet + Yomichan + Anki integration is basically this for Japanese. You read real texts, Yomichan helps with missing words and with one click you can add them (with context) to Anki.
nategriabout 7 years ago
Add support for Russian and I&#x27;m in. This looks like exactly the language app I&#x27;ve been dreaming of--real language-native content with quick lookups for stuff you don&#x27;t know.
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wingerlangabout 7 years ago
Nice. I&#x27;m also making a language learning application and getting &quot;real&quot; content (websites, tweets?, news, etc) into the app is definitely one of my main targets.
eafkuorabout 7 years ago
What&#x27;s your language priority list? I&#x27;m learning Polish
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nafizhabout 7 years ago
Any chance for Arabic in the future? Looks like a great app!!
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oh_sighabout 7 years ago
Installing on my phone now. My major beef with duolingo was that it felt too much like a game. Goddamnit, learning isn&#x27;t fun and don&#x27;t try to make it be!