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“If poor people knew how rich rich people are, there'd be riots in the streets”

47 pointsby senthil_rajasekabout 7 years ago

5 comments

Buetolabout 7 years ago
The url should be changed to: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rwer.wordpress.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;06&#x2F;if-poor-people-knew-how-rich-rich-people-are-there-would-be-riots-in-the-streets&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rwer.wordpress.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;06&#x2F;if-poor-people-knew-ho...</a><p>Also, like Piketty said in his book, this trend could be inversed and stabilized if we had more taxes on capital, that&#x27;s literally the solution to world hunger &#x2F; education &#x2F; healthcare.
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sokoloffabout 7 years ago
&gt; “If we take out housing and pensions [which in another part of the article we observe &#x27;those two categories comprise most of the so-called wealth of most Americans&#x27;] and calculate just the shares of financial or business wealth — and, thus, equities, fixed-income claims, and business assets — the degree of inequality is much, much worse.<p>So, if we take out the first two elements of the American dream and likely the first two items that Americans save for, which we&#x27;ve discovered represent most of the wealth of the middle and upper middle class, we find that the remaining wealth is even more unequal.<p>Well, duh...
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gjm11about 7 years ago
The actual claim seems to be: inequality looks much more extreme if instead of comparing people&#x27;s total wealth you compute their wealth <i>minus</i> housing and pensions.<p>I dare say that&#x27;s true, but I don&#x27;t see any good reason why you should do the comparison that way. (Other than a desire to make the figures look more extreme, I guess.)<p>Suppose Alice has $500k in pension funds, a house worth $400k, and $100k in ordinary non-retirement savings. And suppose Bob has $100k in pension funds, rents rather than owns his house (a similar one to Alice&#x27;s), and has $900k in ordinary non-retirement savings.<p>Apparently Ruccio wants us to consider Bob much richer than Alice, because he has $900k in non-housing non-pension wealth whereas Alice only has $100k of that. But their real situations are extremely similar, and most likely Alice is actually better off because her pension funds will be subject to less tax.
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maxxxxxabout 7 years ago
You just have to look at the first graph you know that something is going extremely wrong. That trend is not sustainable and will split society apart.
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hackbinaryabout 7 years ago
Wait, what? If poor people knew .... ?!<p>There were riots in England in 2011. There has been rioting in the US.<p>Usually this rioting is kicked off by police brutality, but it seems to me that it quickly descends into looting.