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Madison Square Garden Has Used Face-Scanning Technology on Customers

119 pointsby hvoabout 7 years ago

9 comments

js2about 7 years ago
I think people who find this concerning are very likely in the minorty. Folks are pretty willing to give up their fingerprint for access to Disney parks.<p>I appreciate the security concerns of MSG, but I don&#x27;t see how we can make an informed decision without knowing its false positive and false negative rates, and what happens on false positives. Then obviously there is the question of where they are acquiring the facial data from, and with whom they share it.<p>Also, haven&#x27;t casinos done this for years to keep out banned gamblers?
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ryandrakeabout 7 years ago
There needs to be a way for false positive victims of AI or otherwise automated decision-making to appeal&#x2F;challenge the decision and have an actual human review. Otherwise the future will be full of dystopian “Sorry, you cannot (or must) do XYZ because the computer said so!”<p>Unfortunately this is likely to require legislation, so we won’t see the problem addressed (at least in the USA) until it has become nearly irreversibly oppressive.
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acct1771about 7 years ago
For all the &quot;yeah, but didn&#x27;t so and so do it already?&quot; responses...why does that make it okay, again?
drpgqabout 7 years ago
As someone who works in the industry, using face recognition at sporting events is not new at all. Although admittedly algorithms are a lot better now.
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kefsabout 7 years ago
2001 Superbowl (pre 9&#x2F;11) crowd scanned for &quot;possible terrorists&quot; and &quot;identified 19 people thought to be wanted on outstanding warrants for misdemeanors.&quot;<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2001&#x2F;07&#x2F;04&#x2F;us&#x2F;tampa-scans-the-faces-in-its-crowds-for-criminals.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2001&#x2F;07&#x2F;04&#x2F;us&#x2F;tampa-scans-the-faces-i...</a>
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kevin_thibedeauabout 7 years ago
They&#x27;ve been doing this at casinos for quite a while to track cheats and decide who to comp.
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stordoffabout 7 years ago
I don&#x27;t believe this to be particularly new&#x2F;unique, e.g.:<p>&gt; A Sept. 20 [2016] concert at Tokyo Dome by popular band Babymetal featured facial recognition systems at some of the gates. The system required guests to pre-register a photo of themselves, which the system used to confirm that the concertgoer was indeed the original purchaser of the ticket.<p>(Facebook link as the original source appears to be down) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;babymetalnewswire&#x2F;posts&#x2F;806281732808144" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;babymetalnewswire&#x2F;posts&#x2F;80628173280...</a>
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joncraneabout 7 years ago
They do it at most NASCAR races, too. Not only that, but the company that does it bought and renamed one of the tracks!
pcurveabout 7 years ago
hrm... I wonder how vast their facial database is. I know gov&#x27;t has my driver&#x27;s license and passport photos, but they&#x27;re pretty crummy quality.