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Navy Medics Get Prepared for Combat with Tour of Duty in Chicago

69 pointsby oicu812about 7 years ago

13 comments

ilamontabout 7 years ago
A relative served in the U.S. Army as a doctor many decades ago and said some of the training involved shooting goats with a small caliber gun, removing the bullets, and stitching them up. His specialty was not surgery - I assume this was training for basic field medicine and emergencies.<p>I&#x27;ve read somewhere that Navy Corpsmen have a training exercise in which a pig is anesthetized and then burned or shot and the job of the corpsman is to keep it alive as long as possible.<p>ETA: This was happening in 2012 but PETA objected (1); I am not sure if it&#x27;s still part of the program.<p>1. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;latimesblogs.latimes.com&#x2F;lanow&#x2F;2012&#x2F;03&#x2F;pigs-military-medic-training-san-diego-county.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;latimesblogs.latimes.com&#x2F;lanow&#x2F;2012&#x2F;03&#x2F;pigs-military-...</a>
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hprotagonistabout 7 years ago
Anecdotally, one of the reasons that trauma surgeons from chicago and baltimore have a really pristine reputation is that they get a lot of practice.<p>I remember hearing about programs like this perhaps 15 years ago, so I&#x27;m not surprised they&#x27;re ongoing.
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Avshalomabout 7 years ago
The fact that the naval training base is in Chicago probably has something to do with it too.
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mzkplyabout 7 years ago
Chicago and Baltimore are the most desired spots for all trauma surgery interns. Note that I went to McGill in Montreal, Canada.
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Mo3about 7 years ago
I&#x27;m always afraid of the (incredibly little) chance of getting shot here in Germany, because I&#x27;m sure the doctors wouldn&#x27;t have a lot of experience
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neonateabout 7 years ago
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;MtjAr" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;MtjAr</a>
forapurposeabout 7 years ago
There&#x27;s an old narrative, so familiar we hardly notice it, that American cities are dangerous and crime-ridden. It&#x27;s something that many WSJ readers and others grew up hearing, and which is a popular setting in entertainment - a setting for genre we all know, like the Victorian period pieces - and entertainment is the only exposure many have to cities outside of commercial and entertainment districts. That narrative is obsolete; generally, crime is very low, gangs are a thing of the past, and so are drug wars. I&#x27;ve spent time in cities, outside the commercial and entertainment (and wealthy loft) districts, and you&#x27;d be surprised what you find - regular people going about regular days, boringly normal. Lots of infrastructure that needs attention too.<p>I&#x27;m concerned that articles like this one further the old, dramatic narrative, and there&#x27;s a cost: It depicts these places as almost different countries, stereotyped settings for genre entertainment like a Hollywood backlot, not as real communities; and it writes off the residents as a criminal class that need to be suppressed by police (and fuels a lot of racism), not as people with talent, hard work and dreams who need transit, education, jobs, freedom, opportunity, and all the same things we need sitting at our desks reading about it.<p>(There are dangerous, crime-ridden areas in the U.S.; some are in cities and some are not. On the other hand, I guess Wall Street is in a city, and what&#x27;s the per capita crime rate there? They should send JAG for training!)<p>EDIT: Some minor edits
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megaman22about 7 years ago
Arguably a more deadly place than the war-zones they would be deploying to<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;niallmccarthy&#x2F;2016&#x2F;09&#x2F;08&#x2F;homicides-in-chicago-eclipse-u-s-death-toll-in-afghanistan-and-iraq-infographic&#x2F;#6e888d477d75" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;niallmccarthy&#x2F;2016&#x2F;09&#x2F;08&#x2F;homici...</a>
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burkemw3about 7 years ago
Variants of this have been happening for a while. Here&#x27;s 2008 article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbsnews.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;intense-training-for-military-surgeons&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbsnews.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;intense-training-for-military-s...</a>
kwilletsabout 7 years ago
The trauma surgeon who treated the North Korean soldier that escaped through Panmunjom was trained in San Diego, and that makes him one of the most experienced trauma surgeons in the country. There&#x27;s much less practice available in countries with gun control.
chanandler_bongabout 7 years ago
I went through paramedic school in Los Angeles in the early 90s and worked along side US Army medics who were sent there to learn how to deal with trauma cases.<p>Ah, good times at UCLA Medical Centre and MLK.
spodekabout 7 years ago
&gt; “The experience here can’t be replicated elsewhere, unless you have a major land invasion,”<p>Parkland, Columbine, Newtown, . . .<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_school_shootings_in_th...</a>
ataturkabout 7 years ago
We should not overlook the fact that in the 1970s, trauma surgeons practiced in the Bronx. Nothing ever really changes in the human condition, but new generations forget the old lessons.