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Why is Pi² so close to 10?

41 pointsby slbenficaabout 7 years ago

19 comments

mathattackabout 7 years ago
I love math (and have recently gotten into the beauty of the Golden Ratio) but this seems remarkably non-profound.<p>Squaring a number that’s a little higher than 3 will get you close to 10.<p>If it were 9.999999 then it’s another story.
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scytheabout 7 years ago
It&#x27;s... not? It&#x27;s 9.87. If you throw a dart at the number line, the average distance it will be from the nearest integer is 0.25. The distance from pi^2 to 10 is 0.13. That&#x27;s below average, but in the second quintile. There&#x27;s nothing special about 10, other than it happens to be the number of fingers on two human hands.<p>However, deriving approximations for pi from the Basel series is sort of interesting. Except summing the Basel series requires at a bare minimum the theory of Taylor series, so it is not an accessible theorem for a primitive geometer.
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dmitrybrantabout 7 years ago
A much, much more interesting observation (attributed to Ramanujan) is that e^(pi * sqrt(163)) is extremely close to an integer. In fact it equals 262537412640768743.99999999999925...<p>The most remarkable thing is that this is actually <i>not</i> a coincidence, but a consequence of complex multiplication: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Complex_multiplication#Sample_consequence" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Complex_multiplication#Sample_...</a>
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soVeryTiredabout 7 years ago
I think this would get much better responses if the title was something like &quot;You can use the zeta function to get an upper bound for Pi&quot;.<p>Here&#x27;s a more interesting result with the same flavour: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;math.stackexchange.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;4544&#x2F;why-is-e-pi-sqrt163-almost-an-integer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;math.stackexchange.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;4544&#x2F;why-is-e-pi-sq...</a>
n4r9about 7 years ago
Profound or not, these kinds of (near) identities are a lot of fun to explore. Here are some great lists:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;mathworld.wolfram.com&#x2F;AlmostInteger.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;mathworld.wolfram.com&#x2F;AlmostInteger.html</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mathematical_coincidence" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mathematical_coincidence</a><p>Some favourites:<p>- 5 phi e &#x2F; 7 pi = 1 (to 5dp)<p>- pi^4 + pi^5 = e^6 (to 4dp)<p>- e^pi - pi = 20 (to 3dp)<p>Also, remember that many very profound discoveries come about from noticing fun little oddities.
lostmsuabout 7 years ago
Why Pi^2 is so close to g, gravitational acceleration on the Earths surface?
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meukabout 7 years ago
Related, and slightly more interesting than the linked article (I think), is you can get similar &#x27;almost equal to an integer&#x27;-results by using recursive relations.<p>Take, for example, a Fibonacci-like sequence, defined by f(k + 2) = f(k) + f(k + 1) and f(0) = 2, f(1) = 1. Then you get the solution f(n) = a^n + b^n, where a = (1 - sqrt(5))&#x2F;2 and b = (1 + sqrt(5))&#x2F;2. So |a| &lt; 1 and |b| &gt; 1. If the recursive relation has integer coefficients, then a^n + b^n will be an integer. For large n, |a^n| will get very small, so b^n will be very close to an integer.<p>For example ((1 + sqrt(5)) &#x2F; 2) ^ 20 = 15126.9999<p>It should be possible to find a recursive relation where |a| is smaller, so that b^n is closer to an integer, but hey, I&#x27;m supposed to be working now.<p>Edit: Coincidentally, this result is also presented in the math stackexchange post that soVeryTired linked to (actually, this is not a coincidence, since this is the most basic recursive relation, and has easily memorable forms for a and b).
PokemonNoGoabout 7 years ago
Thats a really neat inline pdf viewer! Rendered on the backend with pdf.js or something?
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mxwsnabout 7 years ago
Why is e^2 so close to 7? Just to highlight how arbitrary pi and 10 are...
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bdammabout 7 years ago
While the mathematics here is completely inane, I really enjoyed the presentation whereby the side concepts that the author is building on top of become pop-up margin notes. Very nice.
Someoneabout 7 years ago
<i>”and the error is reasonably small because […], a sum whose first term is 1&#x2F;60 and whose further terms are much smaller yet”</i><p>That’s sloppy for a math paper. “Much smaller yet” doesn’t even guarantee that the series converges.
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chasingabout 7 years ago
Why is 3^2 so close to 9?
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bradorabout 7 years ago
What does this symbol ζ mean here? Like ζ(2)...what is that?
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madcaptenorabout 7 years ago
Why is pi^3 so close to 31? Why is pi^2 + pi so close to 13?
mnlabout 7 years ago
More interestingly, why is 355&#x2F;113 so close to Pi?
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SamReidHughesabout 7 years ago
Because God carries a slide rule.
jovial_cavalierabout 7 years ago
It isn&#x27;t.
pps43about 7 years ago
Why is Pi*10^7 seconds so close to one year?
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gowldabout 7 years ago
ObXkcd:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;1047&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;1047&#x2F;</a> and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mrob.com&#x2F;pub&#x2F;ries&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mrob.com&#x2F;pub&#x2F;ries&#x2F;index.html</a>