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Ask HN: Is there a place in tech for me? If so, where?

4 pointsby ObligatoryRefabout 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve lived in Silicon Valley my whole life and have now worked here for about 8 years, mostly doing QE of some sort. For the last year or so, though, I feel like I&#x27;ve hit a wall.<p>I don&#x27;t really care about working on world-changing projects, or a pool table and fridge full of snacks, or even tons of free t-shirts. I really just want to walk in at 9, do work with some minimum threshold of interesting-ness, and walk out at 5 without worrying about whether I&#x27;m on call or what ridiculous promise the sales guy in our open-plan office has made.<p>Do you have a job like that? Does it exist? If so, where, and how can I get there?

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itamarstabout 7 years ago
Yes, it&#x27;s possible. Many people just work 9-5. I&#x27;ve done interesting work at multiple companies since 2004, never worked more than 40 hours (past few years I&#x27;ve worked less than 40 hours).<p>How to get such a job:<p>1. You may already have one. At many companies you can show up at 9, go home and 5, and <i>no one will care</i>. Really. You just need to be productive and do your job and everyone will be happy.<p>If you work in company where <i>everyone</i> works crazy hours this is harder, because you&#x27;ll feel constant social pressure to work longer (even if manager doesn&#x27;t care). But if you pay attention you might find other coworkers doing the same.<p>2. There are many companies that have work&#x2F;life balance by default. E.g. read descriptions of companies that say &quot;work&#x2F;life balance&quot; on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.keyvalues.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.keyvalues.com&#x2F;</a>. Some companies there define work&#x2F;life balance rather bizarrely, but some meet my personal definition. And in either case you can get insight into their culture.<p>You can also often get a sense during interview (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.keyvalues.com&#x2F;culture-queries" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.keyvalues.com&#x2F;culture-queries</a> has some good questions).<p>3. You can negotiate explicitly. Negotiating takes some practice, but definitely possible.<p>4. How will you get your work done in 9-5? Turns out you&#x27;re actually less productive if you work long hours. I write about it e.g. here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;10&#x2F;work-life-balance-software-engineer&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;10&#x2F;work-life-balance-so...</a><p>Productivity skills can also help, e.g. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;03&#x2F;stay-focused&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;03&#x2F;stay-focused&#x2F;</a><p>5. More difficult, but also possible, is &lt;40 hours&#x2F;week: I&#x27;ve done it, as has this guy I interviewed for my blog who has been working less than 40 hours a week for 15 years now - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;08&#x2F;part-time-programmer&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;08&#x2F;part-time-programmer...</a><p>6. Finally, I&#x27;ve written a book about the topic, covering negotiation skills, productivity skills, interviews with people who have taken different paths to this goal, and more: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;saneworkweek&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;saneworkweek&#x2F;</a>