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Cambridge Analytica whistleblower used same Facebook dataset for own startup

219 pointsby _mlxlabout 7 years ago

7 comments

JohnTClarkabout 7 years ago
I don&#x27;t know why I don&#x27;t trust this Christopher Wylie. They way he is pictured, filmed etc. looks over produced, like he is trying to lie to me. I can&#x27;t put it in words but something is fishy about him. In one of his interviews I found out that CA has sue him, so he did not care about anything, he did something wrong to CA, they sue, he blows the whistle to save his <i></i>*. Is not about &quot;oh, I care so much about the data of millions of people and I can&#x27;t live any more with the guilt&quot;, its about his own skin. If its your own skin that you care about please don&#x27;t picture in a victim&#x2F;tormented soul, it makes me hate you just for that.
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jacquesmabout 7 years ago
And that is why you <i>never</i> let such data off your premises in the first place. Who knows how many copies there have been made by now. Remember that AOL stuff that was online for a couple of hours? It will never go away.<p>A pretty good source of very interesting information is the OpenRTB interface to your average advertising bidding platform or company. A couple of bucks and you too could be bidding for ads. If you bid low you will get <i>all</i> the data you could possibly imagine and you can keep it even if you lose the bid. All you need is a good story and a couple of bucks to keep the exchanges satisfied.
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stevefeinsteinabout 7 years ago
What&#x27;s the point of this article, to try to discredit him? He&#x27;s already discredited. The whistleblowing doesn&#x27;t require his trust, it&#x27;s true or it&#x27;s not. We already know he&#x27;s not trustworthy, and surprise, he did it (at least) twice.
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21about 7 years ago
In the original whistle-blowing interview the whistle-blower (Wylie) says that he was the one which initiated this whole project:<p>&gt; At 24, he came up with an idea that led to the foundation of a company called Cambridge Analytica<p>&gt; It was Wylie who came up with that idea and oversaw its realisation.<p>&gt; Alexander Nix, then CEO of SCL Elections, made Wylie an offer he couldn’t resist. “He said: ‘We’ll give you total freedom. Experiment. Come and test out all your crazy ideas.’”<p>&gt; But Wylie wasn’t just talking about fashion. He had recently been exposed to a new discipline: “information operations”, which ranks alongside land, sea, air and space in the US military’s doctrine of the “five-dimensional battle space”
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ahuxley2013about 7 years ago
I have a sneaking suspicion this guy is a plant or something for the C.I.A. or NSA. The interviews I have heard, he starts to ramble on about Russia, and making bizarre connections. There is such lust for a ward with Russia it is nuts.
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dansoabout 7 years ago
I haven&#x27;t been following this stuff super closely, but hasn&#x27;t there been ongoing counternarrative of how CA data analysis and its 50 million profiles may not have been very useful, period? Because there&#x27;s a concurrent (and legitimate) narrative of Facebook&#x27;s questionable data practices, I&#x27;ve been wondering whether CA has been an overhyped antagonist in our media&#x27;s rush to find the true villains.<p>Yesterday Drudge Report (still one of our biggest news drivers) had a headline [A] that almost made my eyes roll through the back of my head. It was &quot;WHISTLEBLOWER: FACEBOOK CAN HEAR YOU!&quot; But the linked story [B] contained nothing more than Wylie speculating how it was physically possible for Facebook (and other apps) to do this, but they probably weren&#x27;t, but if they <i>were</i>, it could lead into some bad shit or something.<p>Yeah, Wylie can&#x27;t control what linkbaiters write about him. Or what politicians ask him in a public hearing. But because he was a whistleblower about CA&#x27;s abuse of FB&#x27;s data, he&#x27;s been considered an expert&#x2F;whistleblower in domains far beyond what he actually has experience in. Being a good data analyst and having a bunch of FB scraped data is still not enough to remotely guarantee success in the startup scene.<p>In terms of the election, what&#x27;s the most substantive discussion&#x2F;proof that CA and its magic data was any more a game changer than, say, Brad Pascale [0]? And I also haven&#x27;t read out CA&#x27;s insights were a gamechanger in boosting the Russians&#x27; alleged propaganda and fake news bots schemes. I haven&#x27;t yet read a better reporter on this angle than the New Yorker&#x27;s Adrian Chen, and his relative reluctance to blame big data&#x2F;bot schemes has perhaps made me too skeptical every time I read media stories about CA&#x27;s magical mind-bending dataset [1].<p>[A] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pbs.twimg.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;DZVzHctU8AAZBxa.jpg:large" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pbs.twimg.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;DZVzHctU8AAZBxa.jpg:large</a><p>[B] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20180328111429&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pjmedia.com&#x2F;trending&#x2F;cambridge-analytica-whistleblower-facebook-may-listening-home-work&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20180328111429&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pjmedia.co...</a><p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;politics&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;27&#x2F;trumps-facebook-advertising-advantage-explained&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;politics&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;27&#x2F;t...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newyorker.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;elements&#x2F;a-so-called-experts-uneasy-dive-into-the-trump-russia-frenzy" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newyorker.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;elements&#x2F;a-so-called-experts-...</a>
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sngzabout 7 years ago
any source thats more reliable than buzzfeed?
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