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Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

217 pointsby yanexabout 7 years ago

23 comments

cyrusmgabout 7 years ago
The file manager seems to be closed-source[1], does anyone know of any good open-source alternatives ?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;marta-file-manager&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;marta-file-manager&#x2F;</a>
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userbinatorabout 7 years ago
Perhaps this is a bit off-topic, but I correctly guessed from the domain name and later, the contents of the page, that [1] the author is Russian, and [2] the file manager resembles the layout of FAR, another file manager of Russian origin and seemingly very popular among them.<p>In short, what is it with Russians and this type of file manager? It&#x27;s a very curious association.
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spythonabout 7 years ago
Forklift[0] Does a very good job of being a stable and reliable double pane file manager with connectivity such as SFTP, S3, GoogleDrive and nice built in things like batch rename and file transfer queues.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;binarynights.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;binarynights.com&#x2F;</a>
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jaclazabout 7 years ago
&gt;Marta is a dual-pane file manager. Most of the time you work with two directory panes placed side-by-side. This allows you to do the basic file operations such as copying or moving files in a fast and efficient way, because you can see both source and target directories, and you can copy or move files directly, without copy-pasting it.<p>Just in case, it could be categorized as a OFM (Orthodox File Manager):<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.softpanorama.org&#x2F;OFM&#x2F;index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.softpanorama.org&#x2F;OFM&#x2F;index.shtml</a><p>What started it all is the Norton Commander for DOS.
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yeasayerabout 7 years ago
I don&#x27;t like that file operations are controlled by F1-F8 keys. This UX is unfriendly to macOS environment. Most users&#x27; F-row is in media keys mode by default, so you have to hold Fn otherwise. And I&#x27;m not even taking into account the Touch Bar.
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crispinbabout 7 years ago
On a first look, this looks fantastic. Just what I&#x27;ve been waiting for. Time will tell -- I have thought this about a couple of other file managers, but irritations have always eventually surfaced to drive me back to Finder.<p>The ST-style command palette alone makes this worth a decent evaluation.<p>First-run experience was a bit odd - Marta opened up with both panes empty, and all actions unavailable. I had to go to Go-&gt;Volumes in each pane and select a volume to show up. That&#x27;s OK, it&#x27;s a beta. Seems great so far.
hambos22about 7 years ago
I just tried it and I really liked it. It looks very promising. I applause author&#x27;s statements about its business model (&quot;The goal for me is to create the best file manager for Mac, not to become rich.&quot;).<p>I have tried everything, from Double Commander, to Forklift,Pathfinder and fman.<p>I was fman user for about a year (OSX) but it was slow and the quick look (with plugins) was unresponsive and crashed all the time so I cancelled my subscription about one month ago and I was in search for a minimal but powerful dual panel file manager with keyboard functionality.<p>Thanks for making this, it looks like TotalFinder (which I am a user since the beginning) for power users. Especially the tabs functionality
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yalestarabout 7 years ago
This is really excellent. I used to use Altap Salamander when I was more of a Windows user, and it became one of my most indispensable tools. I&#x27;ve tried most of the Mac commander-style clones (Forklift, Pathfinder, fman, Nimble Commander) and found them slightly off for various reasons. This one really hits the mark for me in terms of functionality, usability&#x2F;feel, performance, and predictability. And the Sublime-style command palette makes it even better. Excellent job!
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saagarjhaabout 7 years ago
What does this app provide that Finder doesn&#x27;t? I see something about a background operation queue, which Finder does, archive support, which I have a QuickLook plugin for, and gadgets, which I can accomplish with services.
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grzmabout 7 years ago
Looks interesting. I&#x27;d love to see more screen shots. Is there a gallery somewhere? I poked around the site a bit but didn&#x27;t find one. Tthough perhaps I just missed it. Been known to happen.)
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nodesocketabout 7 years ago
Marta looks super nice, but I very hesitant to replace native Finder. I wish Apple would do a complete rewrite of Finder and update it, instead of bolting on these iOS type changes and new applications.
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grzmabout 7 years ago
Over a 100 comments from the Show HN a couple of weeks ago:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13921364" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13921364</a>
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mherrmannabout 7 years ago
Marta was inspired by (my) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fman.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fman.io</a> [1]. Marta&#x27;s author criticises that fman doesn&#x27;t feel native enough because it is also available for Windows and Linux. (It&#x27;s based on PyQt.) What you get in return however are a more vibrant community and plugin ecosystem in Python.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13921631" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13921631</a>
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dymkabout 7 years ago
I would love vim keybindings for this. It&#x27;s much more intuitive than Finder.app&#x27;s keybindings, but I hate leaving my home row.
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binaryanomalyabout 7 years ago
Nice! I like it and see potential. Was quite disappointed of all the OSX file managers so far and I think I&#x27;ve tried them all.<p>After staying for a bit with pathfinder I&#x27;m back to finder. While not super decent it still doesn&#x27;t get into my way too often.<p>Something more advanced would be welcome though and I would even be willing to pay for it, given it suits my needs. That means though I rather wait for v1.0 because I miss quit a lot of features &#x2F; ui usability in the current state.<p>Make it the Sublimetext of file managers and you have a customer.
saagarjhaabout 7 years ago
So, I see a plugin API for this, as well as a sample Swift plugin: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;marta-file-manager&#x2F;HelloWorldPlugin" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;marta-file-manager&#x2F;HelloWorldPlugin</a>. How are you making this work? As far as I know, creating plugins in Swift is a bad idea because trying to load two of them with incompatible runtimes (a likely possibility, since Swift doesn&#x27;t have a stable ABI) would cause bad things to happen.
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Numberwangabout 7 years ago
The queue thing is something I&#x27;ve always wanted for Windows. Probably for the last 15 years I&#x27;ve wondered why they have&#x27;t added this and made it a default.
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declanqianabout 7 years ago
Just downloaded the beta. Saturday morning. The time I opened the app. I realized I have Emacs dired. I don&#x27;t need this... Sorry. The UI does look good.
dvcrnabout 7 years ago
I would like to try to use this as default manager for things like `open .` and `reveal in finder` actions. `defaults write -g NSFileViewer -string org.yanex.marta` did a pretty good job with some things but others still don&#x27;t work.<p>Is there any way to set it as default?
zhtwayabout 7 years ago
I haven’t fully tested yet. But I like double pane FM. Thanks for your app. Why you still leave copyright year to 2016 to 2017? Shouldn’t be 2018?
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yogthosabout 7 years ago
On a related note, I highly recommend Midnight Commander midnight-commander.org
tuananhabout 7 years ago
this is so nice. love the app already!<p>- feature wise, it&#x27;s not as good as forklift yet but the performance, ui (personal preference) are much better.
wintercanoeabout 7 years ago
Pathfinder is a great file manager for Mac: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cocoatech.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cocoatech.com&#x2F;</a>