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Oracle Said to Be Leading Anti-Amazon Lobby on Pentagon Cloud Bid

127 pointsby us0rabout 7 years ago

24 comments

anoncoward1234about 7 years ago
I currently work as a solutions engineer on Oracle Cloud. The product is absolute garbage and I'm miserable. If anyone has any good leads on other positions please let me know!
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Crontababout 7 years ago
Oracle: the company who would ruin the software industry just to win a lawsuit against Google. Fuck em.
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manigandhamabout 7 years ago
It's sad that these politics might win because the Oracle cloud is one of the worst products I've ever used, especially from such a massive company that could easily put out something better if it wasn't the epitome of misery in customer relations led by clueless management.
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ams6110about 7 years ago
There was a time when Oracle&#x27;s database product was kind of like IBM mainframes. If you could afford it, and really needed its capabilities, there was no substitute.<p>As a result, their sales and business practices focus on selling huge deployments to Big Enterprise and large government contracts.<p>Not surprising they never really made inroads with small developers and startups, and why they have the reputation they do in that community.
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oneplaneabout 7 years ago
So they go anti-the-other-guy instead of making sure they have the better deal? That sounds like about half the stuff you get with politics and lawyers. I thought you&#x27;d get something more factual with technology, but I guess Oracle is more like a lawyer-lobby business that just happens to make or resell software.
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youdontknowthoabout 7 years ago
I don&#x27;t get all of the Amazon fan-boi-ism. They are just another company. They are all trying to get more of the publics money through influence. You think Amazon hasn&#x27;t been lobbying agencies and congress to get their business? Why do you think that Bezos bought the Washington Post?<p>Oracle is quite bad. Procurement in the Government is broken. The DOD is the worst. It&#x27;s literally a give away to the private sector. If you think that someone &quot;wins&quot; this kind of business because their &quot;product&quot; &quot;is the best&quot;...You are going to be very sad.
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mrbabout 7 years ago
I think it&#x27;s a terrible idea for the DoD (of all departments) to move all their infrastructure to any commercial cloud, Amazon or Oracle. So much critical infrastructure in the hands of a single company. What could possibly go wrong? They get hacked, experience significant outages, or worse, go out of business, and <i>poof</i> there goes all of the DoD&#x27;s infrastructure... Whoever wins the bid will definitely become &quot;too big to fail&quot;.
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notananthemabout 7 years ago
Sounds like Oracle&#x27;s core business of fucking everyone up for no reason. Larry you are a true POS &lt;3
aidosabout 7 years ago
Cheap, but let’s all enjoy Larry Ellison on “the cloud”<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;KmXJSeMaoTY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;KmXJSeMaoTY</a>
ReverseColdabout 7 years ago
Why can&#x27;t they just host their own servers&#x2F;compute&#x2F;etc?<p>I never understand why the us government wants to contract these things.
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colek42about 7 years ago
Please no, I do not want to use Oracle anything. We are finally starting to embrace open source in this sector.
icegreentea2about 7 years ago
Worth considering the anti-amazon lobby&#x27;s position (I really would not want Oracle to get a single slice of the pie though).<p>Is there a good reason for this contract to a single cloud service provider?<p>AWS already runs the CIA&#x27;s private cloud.
chris_wotabout 7 years ago
I can’t say this often, but I want Amazon to win this deal now.
gameswithgoabout 7 years ago
If anyone in the government is reading this, don&#x27;t go with oracle please. Not an efficient use of money.
suyashabout 7 years ago
Amazon is definitely the current leader but in order to to make it a monopoly, competetion in cloud should be encouraged that will improve offereing and bring prices down for majority of the users.
davesqueabout 7 years ago
I&#x27;m calling it now. Oracle will succeed and be the primary benefactor of these efforts. We&#x27;ve already seen that they&#x27;re in bed with Trump: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailybeast.com&#x2F;the-silicon-valley-giant-bankrolling-devin-nunes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailybeast.com&#x2F;the-silicon-valley-giant-bankr...</a>. The only things Trump understands are money and favors.
billsmithaustinabout 7 years ago
Oracle should go straight to the top: buy advertising time on Fox &amp; Friends.
fapjacksabout 7 years ago
Oh, <i>of course</i> Oracle is doing that, seizing on Trump&#x27;s weird attack. Oracle the trash company. Surprise, surprise.
diebirabout 7 years ago
Oracle, I have a proposition for you. Why don&#x27;t you release Java and then curl up and die? There is not a reason for you to exist. Your mojo was 20 years ago, why prolong the agony. Save us all trouble and go home.
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tboyd47about 7 years ago
Weird how you never see HN so pro- or anti- a company as when Oracle is mentioned.
jshaqawabout 7 years ago
Drain the swamp indeed.
s2gabout 7 years ago
&gt; Their goal is to make sure that the award process is opened up to more than one company<p>sounds reasonable.
fibersabout 7 years ago
People hate Oracle because they hate competition.
huevingabout 7 years ago
About the only good thing that could come from this is destroying the ability for the DoD to move anything to the cloud. Huge SaaS and IaaS companies are squids wrapping their tentacles around everyone&#x27;s data and sucking the autonomy out of organizations.<p>An upstream connectivity outage should be nothing more than an inconvenience, not your lifeline to your lifeline to your only provider of your digital business process and records.