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To ban Telegram Russian regulator blocked two million ip adresses(translated)

95 pointsby phrontabout 7 years ago

7 comments

kovrikabout 7 years ago
I no longer live in Russia, so can&#x27;t tell if it is true, but from what I&#x27;m reading, Telegram devs used a clever hack to bypass the blocking.<p>They say Telegram is using service PUSH notifications (DC_UPDATE - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;core.telegram.org&#x2F;api&#x2F;push-updates" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;core.telegram.org&#x2F;api&#x2F;push-updates</a>) to send new server&#x27;s IP.<p>Apparently, those push updates come from Apple&#x2F;Google&#x2F;Microsoft notification servers. So if Roskomnadzor blocks those servers, then all push notifications will stop working altogether (not only for Telegram).<p>Does anybody know if it is possible?<p>Also, Roskomnadzor asked Apple&#x2F;Google&#x2F;Microsoft to delete Telegram app from their app stores.<p>UPD1: Obviously, Web version of Telegram won&#x27;t work as it doesn&#x27;t have&#x2F;use push notifications.<p>UPD2: Roskomnadzor blocked ~800,000 Amazon IPs and more than 1,000,000 Google IPs. People say they&#x27;re having issues with Viber calls
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kirillsevaabout 7 years ago
I remember a discussion on HN about Orchid Protocol, where proponents argued that if you route traffic through GCP&#x2F;AWS China wouldn&#x27;t dare ban the big american clouds because that would, in effect, ban most of legitimate internet for its citizens, and that would have a net negative effect on its economy and its citizens&#x27; well-being.<p>Russia shows that political will and&#x2F;or technical incompetence can easily overlook these things.
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starik36about 7 years ago
Russia is sick and I hope it gets help soon, but probably won&#x27;t.<p>As reported by one of the leaders of the opposition, ironically on the banned Telegram app (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;t.me&#x2F;DmitryGudkov" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;t.me&#x2F;DmitryGudkov</a>), the IP blocking has resulted in cash registers no longer being functional at a popular chain of stores.
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lokopodiumabout 7 years ago
Amazon already asked Zello, another banned communication app, to stop using their servers to circumvent the Russian ban.<p>Can&#x27;t see why they wouldn&#x27;t shy away here as well.
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Namidairoabout 7 years ago
They have also asked APKMirror to stop hosting Telegram APK&#x27;s (ie. The install packages for android devices).<p>No word on whether or not the F-Droid repositories have been contacted as well.<p>I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if infected copies started popping up soon.
corditeabout 7 years ago
Russian contact has to use tor on mobile now to access telegram when on cell network. But the home ISP still has access without blockage.<p>Said contact sent me some text in a screenshot, I’ll provide it here. I don’t have a source to link to.<p>According to an unofficial copy of Roskomnadzor’s internet blacklist, the hundreds of thousands of Amazon IP addresses (plus some owned by Google and Telegram) are prohibited because of a decision by the Attorney General’s office that is technically unrelated to the April 13th court ruling in Moscow that allowed the government to start blocking Telegram.
cavisneabout 7 years ago
Its surprising AWS hasn&#x27;t tried to open a Russian region yet. All the arguments about compromise of the data centres etc can also be made even more so for China (which is both a more sophisticated opponent and one that literally forces you to work with their state sponsored companies.<p>I guess the economics vs just running out of the Stockholm region dont make sense but it seems like an underserved market
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