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Selling full autonomy before it's ready could backfire for Tesla

59 pointsby mconeabout 7 years ago

8 comments

jijojvabout 7 years ago
There&#x27;s already a lawsuit from 4&#x2F;2017 covering &quot;Enhanced&quot; Autopilot...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.truthinadvertising.org&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2017&#x2F;06&#x2F;Sheikh-v-Tesla-complaint.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.truthinadvertising.org&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2017&#x2F;0...</a> Tesla’s Marketing and Sale of Vaporware 21. As Dictionary.com states, vaporware is “[c]omputer software that is advertised but still nonexistent.” Tesla advertised vaporware to consumers, knowing full well that this particular come-on would particularly excite its target market of high-tech aficionados.<p>Now we need one for self-driving for those who were duped into buying a Tesla just for that.
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CookWithMeabout 7 years ago
Their marketing claim of &quot;Full Self-Driving Hardware&quot; is evil-genius - it&#x27;s very similar to the Halting problem[0] - Turing proofed that we can not develop an algorithm that can predict whether any program will eventually halt.<p>It&#x27;s very similar with this marketing claim. We can never show that the hardware is not capable of being self-driving. Maybe, someone, at some point in the future, could pull it off. Even if the rest of the industry uses Lidar, beefier chips etc., it is not proof that it can not be done with that hardware. Tesla can keep playing that game, until virtually no one owns the current generation of cars anymore.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Halting_problem" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Halting_problem</a>
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s17nabout 7 years ago
Question for Tesla owners: if you&#x27;re actually keeping your hands on the wheel and staying mentally engaged, what&#x27;s the point of autopilot?
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dansoabout 7 years ago
&gt; <i>Tesla charges $5,000 for Autopilot&#x27;s lane-keeping and advanced cruise control features. On top of that, customers can pay $3,000 for what Tesla describes as &quot;Full Self-Driving Capability.&quot;</i><p>Is $5,000 what owners of other cars pay for similar driver-assist features?
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whatever1about 7 years ago
The big leap in deep neural nets, gave us the illusion that we will solve many of our problems overnight. The fact is that we probably need at least one more decade to get things right
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_o_about 7 years ago
I was repeating this to people (typically I was downvoted, the same way I will be now), but the hype is just too huge. People need superheroes, in comics and in real life, they need to depend on some preacher, that will show them illusion of better life. And the marketing is using that, again we are in same scheme, instead of listening to technical people, everyone is relying on marketing which will say everything to boost up the stocks. &lt;slowly clapping&gt; Bravo! (I never had a driving license, I do all my &quot;moving&quot; with public transport or bike and self driving car would be usefull, but not yet - or sooner than in 10 years)
yuhongabout 7 years ago
I wonder about the idea of not &quot;full&quot; self-driving, but with turns and lane changes being automated instead of a steering wheel for example for idiot-proof driving. A joystick may be available as a fallback for manual steering. Of course, there would also be collision detection for example too.
pcuniteabout 7 years ago
Why not sell full autonomy for certain roads only? Like, put sensors every three feet on the interstate, and have a sensor in the car read the proximity sensor. Perfect full auto driving.
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