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Glyphosate found in granola, crackers and oatmeal

59 pointsby Trisellabout 7 years ago

16 comments

njxabout 7 years ago
When I visited our friends/family in Toronto, I was walking through the community and noticed how the lawns had weeds everywhere. I was very intrigued. Don't they have laws, HOA etc. I talked about this to my friend and he said weed killers are prohibited for home use, only golf courses are allowed etc. That was an awesome news for me. I really wish weed killers are abandoned everywhere. Let nature grow, if you don't like it then just mow.
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sampoabout 7 years ago
&gt; a weedkiller linked to cancer<p>This is controversial to say the least. And very one-sided reporting from The Guardian.<p>Every research agency but one considers glyphosate safe and not linked to cancer. Bodies like WHO (World Health Organization) and FAO (Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations) [1], EFSA (European Food Safety Authority) [2], and ECHA (European Chemicals Agency) [3] have concluded that there is no evidence for glyphosate causing cancer.<p>Only one agency, IARC (International Agency for Research on Cancer) in France, has classified glyphosate as a probable carcinogen, but their work has raised some suspicion [4].<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;foodsafety&#x2F;jmprsummary2016.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;foodsafety&#x2F;jmprsummary2016.pdf</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.efsa.europa.eu&#x2F;en&#x2F;press&#x2F;news&#x2F;151112" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.efsa.europa.eu&#x2F;en&#x2F;press&#x2F;news&#x2F;151112</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;echa.europa.eu&#x2F;fi&#x2F;-&#x2F;glyphosate-not-classified-as-a-carcinogen-by-echa" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;echa.europa.eu&#x2F;fi&#x2F;-&#x2F;glyphosate-not-classified-as-a-c...</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-who-iarc-glyphosate-specialreport&#x2F;in-glyphosate-review-who-cancer-agency-edited-out-non-carcinogenic-findings-idUSKBN1CO251" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-who-iarc-glyphosate-speci...</a>
DiabloD3about 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve been anti-glyphosate for awhile. But first, my point of view:<p>A lot of crops require &quot;Roundup Ready&quot; varieties, and Monsanto (ab)uses patent law to enforce licenses on their RR seeds, even in situations where it is clear Monsanto crops contaminated someone else&#x27;s field.<p>Worse yet, due to horizontal gene transfer in some grasses and weeds, we now have RR weeds, and that is a one way process. Due to this, Glyphosate-based products are no longer useful for new weed eradication solutions, only for existing solutions until their last users are overtaken by RR weeds.<p>Roundup had its time, and now it is essentially a commercial failure after the fact.<p>All of that said, I&#x27;m anti-glyphosate because, frankly, it should have never been cleared for use. It kills valuable crops that have not been supplied with the RR gene (which has happened repeatedly due to overspray effecting neighboring fields), they&#x27;ve known since day one that horizontal gene transfer could produce RR weeds, and now we&#x27;ve lost an important tool in weed control due to the overuse and abuse of glyphosate.<p>Due to this overuse and abuse, the American public has been unwittingly used as guinea pigs due to bad science stating that it doesn&#x27;t harm us, but very little (until recently) was done to see how it interacts with our gut flora.<p>We now know that in at least some of the population, glyphosate exposure has side effects. Maybe it screws with our gut bacteria (most likely not the pathway described in Glyphosate II (Samsel 2013)), maybe it is because of APMA (a metabolite of glyphosate) which mimics glutamate toxicity (and want some extra fun? Look at the relationship between autism and glutamate). I don&#x27;t know.<p>I don&#x27;t need to know the exact mechanism (although I&#x27;d like to us to know, to prevent future mistakes from harming people due to accidentally using the same pathway), I just need to know that there is enough science to link glyphosate exposure to modern diseases and disorders.<p>Well, that, and it doesn&#x27;t really work anymore in a lot of crops, especially RR ones.
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rando444about 7 years ago
I think the most puzzling part of the article for me was that the article says they&#x27;ve only been doing testing for this for two years now.<p>I&#x27;m sure I&#x27;m missing some critical piece of information, but this seems like something that agencies should have started testing for decades ago.
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insensibleabout 7 years ago
A lot of people don&#x27;t know that RoundUp is sprayed on many (perhaps most) grains shortly before harvest. It desiccates the grain crop, keeping the combine from getting gummed up and increasing yields.<p>When I learned this, I decided enough was enough and switched to strictly organic grains. I think it actually helps my health quite a bit. I wonder how many of the health problems we blame on wheat are actually due to the poison that is routinely sprayed on it.
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throwaway84742about 7 years ago
Glyphosate is not carcinogenic though, and not dangerous to humans in concentrations typically found on produce. This is due primarily to its mechanism of action. The biological pathways it disrupts in plants are simply not present in humans.
stillbourneabout 7 years ago
Does it matter? Its probably way below the level of toxicity. The ld50 in rats is 5,600 mg&#x2F;kg multiply that by 130 and that&#x27;s close to 1 and 1&#x2F;2 lbs you would need to ingest to get half of a lethal dose. So it&#x27;d take 3 lbs to kill you. A couple of specks of it in food in benign. I mean the ld50 of caffeine is 26 grams people. I don&#x27;t see people complaining about caffeine killing us all. Stop it with the chemophobia.
myth_drannonabout 7 years ago
Please, someone. Instead of working on pushing ads into our minds, develop a software&#x2F;device that can pick up all these chemicals.
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jihadjihadabout 7 years ago
I am no expert, but isn&#x27;t this stuff supposed to degrade quickly in soil? Isn&#x27;t that the whole reason why we&#x27;re using it in the first place? If it behaves differently than expected, the implications are enormous--this stuff is even sprayed, as one commenter also noted, over the entire crop before harvest. Can anyone trust Monsanto?
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xfactor973about 7 years ago
For the determined or crazy with a little land there’s always this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chelseagreen.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;small-scale-grain-raising&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chelseagreen.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;small-scale-grain-raisi...</a>
deeloweabout 7 years ago
Weedkiller, pesticides, fossil fuel emissions, food additives, preservatives, industrial run off and on and on. Does anyone look at all this at scale? With all the crap we&#x27;re pumping into the air, water, and our food, I really wonder.
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avoutthereabout 7 years ago
To counter this in fresh produce, is it possible to just do a thorough rinsing in the sink before preparation&#x2F;consumption?
superplussedabout 7 years ago
Anyone know if this would likely be true in Europe as well? Or are there vastly different pesticide policies here?
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RcouF1uZ4gsCabout 7 years ago
Glyphohosate has been extensively studied and is considered safe for humans at dietary doses.<p>Per the joint FAO and WHO report<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;foodsafety&#x2F;jmprsummary2016.pdf?ua=1" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;foodsafety&#x2F;jmprsummary2016.pdf?ua=1</a><p>&gt;Glyphosate is a broad-spectrum systemic herbicide. Several epidemiological studies on cancer outcomes following occupational exposure to glyphosate were available. The evaluation of these studies focused on the occurrence of NHL. Overall, there is some evidence of a positive association between glyphosate exposure and risk of NHL from the case–control studies and the overall meta- analysis. However, it is notable that the only large cohort study of high quality found no evidence of an association at any exposure level. Glyphosate has been extensively tested for genotoxic effects using a variety of tests in a wide range of organisms. The overall weight of evidence indicates that administration of glyphosate and its formulation products at doses as high as 2000 mg&#x2F;kg body weight by the oral route, the route most relevant to human dietary exposure, was not associated with genotoxic effects in an overwhelming majority of studies conducted in mammals, a model considered to be appropriate for assessing genotoxic risks to humans. The Meeting concluded that glyphosate is unlikely to be genotoxic at anticipated dietary exposures. Several carcinogenicity studies in mice and rats are available. The Meeting concluded that glyphosate is not carcinogenic in rats but could not exclude the possibility that it is carcinogenic in mice at very high doses. In view of the absence of carcinogenic potential in rodents at human-relevant doses and the absence of genotoxicity by the oral route in mammals, and considering the epidemiological evidence from occupational exposures, the Meeting concluded that glyphosate is unlikely to pose a carcinogenic risk to humans from exposure through the diet. The Meeting reaffirmed the group ADI for the sum of glyphosate and its metabolites of 0–1 mg&#x2F;kg body weight on the basis of effects on the salivary gland. The Meeting concluded that it was not necessary to establish an ARfD for glyphosate or its metabolites in view of its low acute toxicity.<p>From the above, it seems that glyphohosate is pretty safe, and that it being found on food items in trace amounts is not big a deal. This seems yet another article that tries to get clicks by having a scary headline of the form &quot;Look chemicals!&quot;
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notadocabout 7 years ago
Everyone I know who eats organic food does so to avoid these type of pesticides.
matthewaveryusaabout 7 years ago
This is the &quot;lead in fuel&quot; equivalent of our generation.
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