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Anarchists in the Spanish Civil War (2002)

97 pointsby dgarceranabout 7 years ago

6 comments

ian0about 7 years ago
For anyone interested, George Orwell's account of his experiences during the civil war, "Homage to Catalonia" is a good english language read on the subject. Not an expert, but it seems pretty impartial. And its Orwell so its easy to read.
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xashorabout 7 years ago
That&#x27;s a fine write-up on the history, especially for the mistakes that were made.<p>The final conclusion, that anarchists should abandon their theories in favor of Trotsky&#x27;s, has a bad taste. There was another anarchist-y society, the Free Territory[0] in east Ukraine, which, with its 3 years of existence, was quite successful (for anarchist societies standards). Sadly, it is often unmentioned, though it had even better starting conditions: while the CNT had to struggle with Franco&#x27;s army (and the support of the other facist leaders), the equivalent reactionary White Army was later defeated by the alliance of Soviet and anarchist troops. They didn&#x27;t mingle with any local government, and their leader Makhno[1] - though not elected - did limit himself to the militancy. So there was only one part left of the problems of spanish anarchists, as analyzed in the article&#x27;s conclusion: <i>Franco’s army, the complicity of the PSOE leadership, and the treachery of the Communists–but [also] the betrayal of the revolution by the anarchist leaders.</i> With former diplomatic aggressions from Trotsky[2], attempted assassionations by the Cheka, finally the Red Army took over the Free Territory.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Free_Territory" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Free_Territory</a> [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Nestor_Makhno" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Nestor_Makhno</a> [2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;nestormakhno.info&#x2F;english&#x2F;trotsky&#x2F;ord1824.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;nestormakhno.info&#x2F;english&#x2F;trotsky&#x2F;ord1824.htm</a>
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alienjrabout 7 years ago
Here&#x27;s a good read on that subject: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;econfaculty.gmu.edu&#x2F;bcaplan&#x2F;spain.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;econfaculty.gmu.edu&#x2F;bcaplan&#x2F;spain.htm</a>
otalpabout 7 years ago
Interesting that Anarchism is largely ignored despite it playing a crucial role in the 20th century as well as being to diametrically opposed to all of Fascism, Capitalism and Soviet Lennism&#x2F;Stalinism. For those unaware, Gandhi&#x27;s philosophy was largely based on Leo Tolstoy&#x27;s Pacifist-Anarchism, and Gandhi subsequently served as a major influence to both MLK and Nelson Mandela. That 3 of the most positively viewed figures of the 20th century, as well as people like Bertrand Russell and George Orwell were all influenced by an idea that most people have never heard of is fascinating.<p>Anarchism itself is so broad and varied that it resists characterisation. You have the entire spectrum, from primitivists to pacifists to futurists. People who claim that voting in elections is pointless(like many on the Occupy movement) to people who advocate for the lesser evil(Noam Chomsky &#x27;endorsing&#x27; Hillary Clinton) to people who advocate for the <i>worse</i> evil(accelerationists)<p>The one thing that can be said about it with certainty, is that it is seen as &quot;<i>a tendency in human affairs, to question existing power structures</i>&quot;. Whether that be the state, religion or interpersonal power relations between race or gender. Much of what we define as &quot;progress&quot; is in reality questioning deep-seated assumptions that seem so obvious that only a fool would question them. In the past, some of these assumptions were things like &quot;It is obvious there are significant difference between races&quot;, &quot;It is obvious that men and women are not intellectually equal&quot;, &quot;It is obvious that we need a monarch or ruling class to maintain peace and order&quot;. Today it is things like &quot;It is obvious that corporations are here to stay and beneficial&quot; or &quot;It is obvious that we need a centralised government to keep order&quot;.<p>One of major problems with society today is that people are essentially told there are 2 positions:<p>1)You think on balance Government is worse and bloated, and therefore steps should be taken to reduce government influence and increasing private control of resources.<p>2)You think on balance corporations are worse, and therefore steps should be taken to reduce corporate influence by increasing government control of resources.<p>Most Anarchists contend that Government <i>and</i> Corporations are undesirable, and that we must work towards some kind of decentralized, federated, non-hierarchical system with free association.<p>I think in general people need to think more about Libertarian Socialism(<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Libertarian_socialism" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Libertarian_socialism</a>) as a viable alternative to the US&#x2F;Soviet model, which are more alike than different, as they are both in essence state-capitalist systems. They aren&#x27;t identical, but fall in a pretty narrow spectrum and incentivise power-seeking. An approach that questions <i>everything</i> on the other hand is the essence of anarchism: a first-principles based method of determining the structure of society.
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slx26about 7 years ago
The article continuously talks about and highlights the importance of the socialist&#x2F;anarchist movements in Catalonia and how it was a focus of resistance against the spanish government in many of its forms. From an outsider perspective, it&#x27;s easy to forget or not realize that Catalonia is only 1 of the 17 autonomous communities in which Spain is divided. I think it&#x27;s very interesting to put it in context to better understand Catalonia&#x27;s history, especially to see that the current situation (independentism as a movement of opposition to the spanish government) is not something new at all, and that Catalonia has been historically a very singular region.<p>But what I wanted to talk about is something the article omits. Basically because it wasn&#x27;t really known until barely half a year ago, when Sònia Garangou published <i>Les Joventuts Llibertàries de Catalunya (1932-1939)</i>, about the libertarian youth in catalonia (JLC from here on), not to be confused with the FIJL, the iberian federation of libertarian youth. Even within the libertarian and anarchist movements, Catalonia had many differences with other spanish groups, and it really went on its own path.<p>&gt; As late as 1936, the CNT devoted an entire discussion at its national congress to the place of vegetarians, nudists, naturists, and &quot;opponents of industrial technology&quot; in a libertarian communist society.<p>CNT, FAI, POUM, etc. have always been the highlighted organizations in the spanish anarchist, communist and libertarian movements, but the recent research tells us that in Catalonia, the JLC might have been equally or even more relevant (in those years, CNT had around 550.000 affiliates in all Spain, FAI between 5.000 and 30.000, POUM even less, and JLC around 32.000 only in Catalonia). They were highly organized and decentralized, and besides vegetarianism and naturism, and maybe even more importantly, they were one of the first organizations in Spain to promote gender equality, have many women leading the local and regional groups, and also promoting culture through the creation of local libraries.<p>I think we will be able to read more about all this in a few years, after more studies and research are done, but for the moment, I thought it was interesting to mention this forgotten fragment of history, that might be so relevant to put the historical events and differences in context.<p>Nowadays, it&#x27;s true that the anarchist movements have lost a lot of strength, but even if they seem residual, they are still organized enough and have the capacity to initiate direct action and mobilize people when needed, and the last events in catalonia are good proof of it. We have been seeing a resurgence of small groups of people organized at a local level, and even when it might seem they are organized for a very different reason, anarchist groups and individuals have been highly participative in these processes, as they have historically been with any social movement.<p>And it&#x27;s really characteristic that the differences between the anarchist groups from Catalonia and the rest of Spain that we talk about from 85 years ago still happen nowadays. 85 years later, and in Madrid they still don&#x27;t quite understand what catalans are doing.<p>P.S. I&#x27;m not an expert, so don&#x27;t take my words too seriously, I&#x27;m just giving my opinion on a few points I think can be interesting to better understand anarchist movements in Spain and the influence they still have today.
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tomohawkabout 7 years ago
All these years later and these guys are still trying to rewrite history. There were very few good guys in this conflict, other than the ones who were duped into going there, such as the Lincoln Battalion, and used. For a balanced viewpoint on this history: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Comrades-Commissars-Lincoln-Battalion-Spanish&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0271029102&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524589009&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Cecil+D.+Eby" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Comrades-Commissars-Lincoln-Battalion...</a>
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