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Firefox 60 released

413 pointsby dikiaapabout 7 years ago

37 comments

apazzoliniabout 7 years ago
Unfortunately, looks like the CPU spikes are still a problem on OS X for me.<p>I check this every time a new version is released as I&#x27;d love to make the switch from Chrome, but Firefox with one blank tab and no extensions uses more CPU than Chrome with 15 actual tabs. When I actually throw activity at Firefox it hogs the CPU even more.<p>Here&#x27;s hoping v61 addresses it.
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newscrackerabout 7 years ago
The enterprise part is great to see (though it was something that seemed long overdue). I recently noticed on a Firefox mailing list that Mike Kaply (of Kaply Consulting, a company that helped with enterprise deployment and configuration of Firefox) had officially joined the Firefox team. Mike&#x27;s presence is going to make Firefox in the enterprise much better.<p>On Firefox 60, I&#x27;m still not on board with the newest versions after the support for legacy extensions was removed. SessionManager, an awesome (legacy, XUL) extension, still doesn&#x27;t have a perfect equivalent in the Web Extension world. Tab Session Manager, which has similar functionality, seems to be lagging behind and struggling with issues in Firefox that prevent it from becoming a good session manager.<p>If there&#x27;s one thing I could ask the Firefox team, it would be to focus on enabling web extensions to do almost everything that legacy extensions were able to. Without the power of feature rich and stable extensions, Firefox is currently inadequate for me (though I still use it as my primary browser).
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dsissitkaabout 7 years ago
Still no option to see all of the permissions an extension requires without digging through its source. :(<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;k4rk0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;k4rk0</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bugzilla.mozilla.org&#x2F;show_bug.cgi?id=1449698" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bugzilla.mozilla.org&#x2F;show_bug.cgi?id=1449698</a>
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Nadyaabout 7 years ago
<i>&gt;Bookmarks no longer support multiple keywords for the same URL unless the request has different POST data</i><p>Can someone explain this one to me? Does this mean I can&#x27;t use &quot;gi&quot;, &quot;i&quot;, &quot;image&quot;, and &quot;is&quot; as my Google Image Search keywords and need to pick one? Reading the issue [0] isn&#x27;t helping me. I only recently updated to FF59 from FF39, having to abandon most of my workflow. I really hope this update isn&#x27;t another nail on the stairs for me, seems every single update since FF40 has broken a significant piece of my workflow. I&#x27;d appreciate knowing before updating and then having to roll-back.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bugzilla.mozilla.org&#x2F;show_bug.cgi?id=1313188" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bugzilla.mozilla.org&#x2F;show_bug.cgi?id=1313188</a>
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Paninoabout 7 years ago
&gt; Applied Quantum CSS to render browser UI<p>I&#x27;m so excited about the future of Firefox. In addition to the above, OpenBSD is currently working on pledge support in FF. In a couple years FF could be simultaneously faster, more private and more secure than Chrome.
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mrspeakerabout 7 years ago
I&#x27;m unreasonably happy that Native Module support is now enabled by default in Firefox, Safari, Chrome, and Edge!<p>My side-projects and experiments (like the WebGL2 &quot;minecraft-y&quot; demo - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mrspeaker.github.io&#x2F;webgl2-voxels&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mrspeaker.github.io&#x2F;webgl2-voxels&#x2F;</a>) now work out of the box: no build system, no transpilers, no dot-files. Happy day!
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wpdev_63about 7 years ago
If anyone from lastpass is reading this thread, please fix your plugin. Everytime I try to edit the password from the prompt on the page, it opens a blank page for the password vault page.
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equaluniqueabout 7 years ago
&gt;Added a policy engine that allows customized Firefox deployments in enterprise environments, using Windows Group Policy or a cross-platform JSON file<p>Hopefully this means the two gigantic companies I work for will phase out Firefox ESR for Quantum. I also hope they move from 32-bit Firefox to 64-bit, but I&#x27;ve learned to keep my expectations low when it comes to these places progressing with tech.<p>&gt;Added support for Web Authentication API, which allows USB tokens for website authentication.<p>That&#x27;s awesome. Ok. Maybe I&#x27;ll let myself get a little more hopeful. :&#x27;)
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malfeasanceabout 7 years ago
<p><pre><code> Pocket Sponsored Stories will appear for a percentage of users in the US. Read about our privacy-conscious approach to sponsored content </code></pre> If you can&#x27;t roll out a feature without violating EU privacy laws, you&#x27;re not employing a &quot;privacy-conscious approach.&quot;
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superdanielabout 7 years ago
I&#x27;m glad that they have released support for the Web Authentication API. Hopefully I won&#x27;t need to use Chrome for websites I choose to be more secure with.<p>Although, with a quick look it seems like I still can&#x27;t use U2F with Google on Firefox.
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nailerabout 7 years ago
Switched from Chrome for privacy reasons a couple of months ago. As a webdev (and hence heavy DevTools user), it feels excellent, the inspector&#x27;s a little bit faster, and having containers for Facebook and Google tracking services is excellent. Spell check in text boxes doesn&#x27;t work though - apparently it should, I have no idea why it doesn&#x27;t.
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vardumpabout 7 years ago
Firefox overall performance starts to be pretty good and it&#x27;s pretty pleasant to use. It feels smoother than Chrome on 2015 Macbook Pro.<p>But I guess there&#x27;s a long tail of issues that keep some people from (still) switching to Firefox.<p>Mine is lack of smooth pinch-zoom on macOS. Once that is fixed, I think I&#x27;ll be using Firefox most of the time.<p>On 2018 Android flagship phone, scrolling speed seems to be maybe 58&#x2F;59 fps. Occasional jerky motion sticks out like a sore thumb. I think it might feel smoother steady 30 fps, because at least then all frames take equally long to render.
dumbmatterabout 7 years ago
I&#x27;m psyched to see the fix to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bugzilla.mozilla.org&#x2F;show_bug.cgi?id=1193394" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bugzilla.mozilla.org&#x2F;show_bug.cgi?id=1193394</a> released, which (amongst other things) mean that you can finally write code using both IndexedDB and promises without inadvertently committing the active transaction on promise resolution. Now I just need to wait until the market share of other Firefox versions decreases before I can actually take advantage in production :)
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Silhouetteabout 7 years ago
In case anyone else is getting a &quot;What&#x27;s new&quot; page after the restart that is just a spammy and broken Firefox Accounts advert, you can get to the more normal release notes via the About Firefox dialog&#x27;s &quot;What&#x27;s new&quot; link, or just go here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;60.0&#x2F;releasenotes&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;60.0&#x2F;releasenotes&#x2F;</a>
billysieluabout 7 years ago
Blocking Third-Party Cookies is a nice option, but it would be better if those settings were for full-blown First Party Isolation instead.
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faitswulffabout 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using Firefox Nightly as my daily browser for a while and I am beginning to notice more and more websites breaking on it - mostly Google services, although Facebook as well, recently, too. I know it&#x27;s complicated by the fact that I&#x27;m on the Nightly channel, but has anyone else noticed an increase in sites that are incompatible with FF?
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_bxg1about 7 years ago
But did they fix the weird scrolling friction on Android?<p>Seriously, it&#x27;s the main reason I don&#x27;t use Firefox.
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isodevabout 7 years ago
In the past couple of months, Firefox has turned into my favorite browser. I am truly grateful to everyone involved with it.
IshKebababout 7 years ago
Firefox in mobile is worth using simply for the reader view. It makes the mobile web tolerable again.
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pmoriartyabout 7 years ago
Does the new Firefox have something like RequestPolicy or NoScript?
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kiliancsabout 7 years ago
&gt; Stylo comes to Firefox for Android in 60<p>&gt; Firefox&#x27;s new parallel CSS engine — also known as Quantum CSS or Stylo — which was first enabled by default in Firefox 57 for desktop, has now been enabled in Firefox for Android.<p>That&#x27;s exciting, but on my phone the Play Store still doesn&#x27;t provide the new version.
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ww520about 7 years ago
Kudos for the new release. Firefox is getting better.
clumsysmurfabout 7 years ago
One killer feature from Safari missing still is &#x27;Show tab overview&#x27; with thumbnails of all your tabs ... anyone know of a well maintained plugin that does something like this? I think it should be built into the browser.
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esturkabout 7 years ago
For such a privacy minded browser, it still preserves closed tabs in Private Mode. If you do (in OSX) cmd+shift+T, you can reopen the closed tabs from earlier. This does not happen in Chrome nor Safari.
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PhantomBKBabout 7 years ago
Holy shit! It&#x27;s fast
sexy_seedboxabout 7 years ago
Aside from continuous memory issues which others have mentioned, my biggest issue is that we still cannot have access to core FF pages and elements with webextensions (ex: mouse gestures on blank&#x2F;new tabpages, userscripts on RSS feeds, scroll through tabs with mouse wheel, etc...)
philliphaydonabout 7 years ago
I wish they would fix the bug in developer tools network tab. Adding columns breaks alignments. :(
jakeoghabout 7 years ago
Obvious stuff that&#x27;s too pro-user:<p>Tab pause button.<p>Or better, opt in to not pause; I hacked up a -STOP for webkit (surf&#x2F;glide) when the tab&#x2F;window was not in the foreground. The X plumbing was tricky and never quite right. Still on my TODO to finish.
excaliburabout 7 years ago
Running 60, installed and configured the group policy templates. Still can&#x27;t get Firefox to pull trusted root certificates from the Windows certificate store. #headdesk
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spondylabout 7 years ago
My coworker likes to say &quot;None of this [tech] shit is cool&quot; and that&#x27;s kind of how I feel about browsers.<p>Firefox Quantum is quite nice but in the past, I&#x27;ve had a constant resizing bug that makes it unusable on my home laptop plus the numerous issues listed below.<p>Alternatively, Chrome is neat but I find it runs sluggish after a while on my older Macbook. I wish it had container tabs a la Firefox and the upcoming &quot;disabled autoplay by default&quot; change is really annoying.<p>I feel the same about OSs anyway but it&#x27;s easy to complain rather than contribute bug fixes. Mind you, I don&#x27;t know eg; C++ so
lwansbroughabout 7 years ago
They still haven&#x27;t fixed whatever problem causes my Late 2013 RMBP&#x27;s CPU&#x2F;fan to jump to 80C and stay there while FF is open. Back to Chrome. :(
bhandziukabout 7 years ago
Did anyone else lose the ability to scroll by clicking the middle mouse button in the 57 (Quantum) upgrade? Still missing for me in this version.
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esfandiaabout 7 years ago
Has the Classic Theme Restorer add-on been ported to the new extension API? Until then, I&#x27;m staying with my old version of Firefox.
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Larrikinabout 7 years ago
Did they fix the text lag in this version? I was on the beta version of 60 and ended up having to downgrade back to 59.
lonkabout 7 years ago
Scrolling is still jerky and sluggish on android.
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majaniabout 7 years ago
From the comparison of the lists, looks like desktop is still their focus, which points to a sad level of navel gazing for an internet company in 2018. Makes me question whether they are focused on competing with Chrome or whether they just want to make cool tech.
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superkuhabout 7 years ago
I haven&#x27;t tried Firefox since version 47 and haven&#x27;t used it as my main since 37. I gave 61 (dev edition) a spin yesterday. All the extensions that make the browser usable for me were like 1990s geocities pages: &quot;Under Construction&quot; if they existed at all. They were just placeholders that lacked most features with links to bugzilla pages to vote for features to be added back into Firefox.<p>Garbage collection was pretty terrible too. I managed to use up 4 GB of ram with ~10 tabs. In my normal (firefox fork) browser I run 300 active&#x2F;loaded tabs and 700 &#x27;suspended&#x27; tabs for ~1k total and never get that high.<p>There&#x27;s seemingly still a lot of work to be done before it&#x27;s usable as a main browser.
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