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The Eric Lundgren Story: When Free Isn’t Free

18 pointsby szczysabout 7 years ago

6 comments

tzsabout 7 years ago
Microsoft&#x27;s blog post on this includes links to the government&#x27;s evidence [1].<p>This include emails from Lundgren that sure make this look like a pretty straightforward case of making and importing counterfeit goods intended to make the buyers think they are getting the real thing, and doing this for profit.<p>There&#x27;s also discussion of ways to ship to try to avoid Customs, and when a shipment does get delayed by Customs Lundgren gives his partner specific lies to tell the Customs agents if questioned.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.microsoft.com&#x2F;on-the-issues&#x2F;2018&#x2F;04&#x2F;27&#x2F;the-facts-about-a-recent-counterfeiting-case-brought-by-the-u-s-government&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.microsoft.com&#x2F;on-the-issues&#x2F;2018&#x2F;04&#x2F;27&#x2F;the-fac...</a>
at-fates-handsabout 7 years ago
This is probably where he went too far:<p><i>Given these basic facts, Eric had the idea to take the freely available restore disc ISOs and have them professionally pressed to CDs. While he was at it he figured he might as well make them look like the real thing, and provided the Chinese company he was working with images of what the legitimate restore discs should look like. Right down to the company logos and copyright notices.</i><p>This sounds a lot like copyright infringement. I know some intellectual property attorneys and if you asked them about this before you did it, they&#x27;d probably cringe and tell you to avoid doing something that <i>appears</i> you&#x27;re using Microsoft&#x27;s logos to make money.
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detaroabout 7 years ago
previous discussions of the same case, I don&#x27;t see anything new here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16956198" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16956198</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16946478" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16946478</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16940722" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16940722</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16921634" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16921634</a>
analognoiseabout 7 years ago
This guy copied restore disks with Microsoft and Dell logos, in bulk, that were seized by customs (thats why they weren&#x27;t sold).<p>I mean what did he think would happen?
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emilfihlmanabout 7 years ago
The issue is not that he might have broken the law.<p>It&#x27;s the absurd and totally disproportionate punishment he&#x27;s getting.
_bxg1about 7 years ago
This whole case is just so upsetting. At least now people know not to do what he did.