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Associations of egg consumption with cardiovascular disease

83 pointsby manidoraisamyalmost 7 years ago

14 comments

broloveralmost 7 years ago
This might suffer from the same issue the alcohol consumption study lacked.<p>People that aren&#x27;t consuming eggs might do so because of health issues. Meaning that they are more prone to feel the side effects.<p>Similar effect happened in the alcohol study, where moderate consumption had a lower mortality than those consuming nothing. It turned out that those abstaining from alcohol were more prone to get side effects immediately. After adjusting for these errors in data reporting, the u-curve disappeared and the relationship was linear (more alcohol you consumed higher the mortality).<p>I was also, embarrassingly, citing the alcohol study, since then I&#x27;ve realized the first reaction to a paper should be doubt and I&#x27;ll definitely abstain from acknowledging epidemiological diet studies in the future. Even meta-analyses taking them into account.<p>One of the best examples is that many meta-analyses conclude that dietary cholesterol does not increase serum cholesterol (proven risk in CVD). Disregarding the fact that many of the aggregated studies do not measure baseline cholesterol, and it is assumed that there&#x27;s a linear response on serum cholesterol to dietary cholesterol when it&#x27;s a 20 year old information that response is non-linear.
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Jeddalmost 7 years ago
&gt; From this prospective cohort study, we found more frequent egg consumption was associated with CVD, IHD, MCE, haemorrhagic stroke and ischaemic stroke, independent of potential confounders. Notably, daily consumers (up to &lt;1 egg&#x2F;day) were associated with a 26% lower in risk of haemorrhagic stroke.<p>I&#x27;m assuming that first sentence is pointing out a negative association, rather than an intake greater than the slightly confusingly worded <i>&#x27;up to &lt;1 egg a day&#x27;</i> line.<p>Later they write:<p>&gt; Lacking participants with consumption of more than one egg per day restricted us to assess the association between higher egg consumption (&gt;1 egg&#x2F;day) and the risk of CVD; but the usual amount of the highest frequency level in the present study was approximate to the recommended amount of the guidelines (0.76 egg vs 0.8–1.0 egg), indicating that adherence to the dietary guidelines with regard to egg consumption could result in a lower risk of CVD.<p>As someone who regularly has 2-3 eggs a day, I&#x27;m much more interested in risks - and indeed whether there are even greater benefits - associated with higher consumption rates.<p>Eggs are a fantastic food source. Even herbivores will often deign to eat them, albeit opportunistically.
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assblasteralmost 7 years ago
The body regulates cholesterol balance via the liver, and this is most influenced by genetics. Dietary cholesterol simply is inconsequential, and the old warning against too much dietary cholesterol was just bad medical advice based on incomplete knowledge of cholesterol metabolism.<p>I eat between 4 and 6 eggs per day. We&#x27;ll see what happens in 50 years, but I bet CAD won&#x27;t be a significant problem because of my good genetics.
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your-nannyalmost 7 years ago
What is typically eaten alongside eggs in China?<p>Ingredients of food in cuisines are clustered. They cannot be treated as if they were independent. For example egg consumption might be highly correlated with bacon consumption in one population, and spinach in another: the recommendation to eat more eggs based on studies of the latter population might have unintended consequences if adopted by the former.
fencepostalmost 7 years ago
Take from this what you can take from many studies of this sort: Eggs have a fair amount of nutrition, and there&#x27;s no sign of significant downsides or vast advantages to eating them in moderation.<p>It&#x27;s unlikely that any reputable study is going to show them as a surprise miracle superfood, and if you&#x27;re consuming them as a major part of your diet that&#x27;s not &quot;in moderation&quot; and this study is not relevant to you.
Faaakalmost 7 years ago
As a non-native English speaker, I find the conclusion sentence very confusing: &quot;Among Chinese adults, a moderate level of egg consumption (up to &lt;1 egg&#x2F;day) was significantly associated with lower risk of CVD, largely independent of other risk factors.&quot;<p>Don that mean that it&#x27;s best to eat a lot or less eggs ?
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emtelalmost 7 years ago
I&#x27;m pretty sure there is no such thing as &quot;an egg&quot;, and I&#x27;m skeptical that the health effects of consuming eggs can be generalized over all eggs.<p>Try comparing an egg from the cheapest dozen you can buy at the cheapest supermarket in your area against an egg from someone who raises chickens. In my experience the cheap egg will have watery whites and a pale yoke that breaks if you look at it funny. Fry it up and it will basically taste like nothing. The other egg will have a much thicker white, and a yolk that stands up in the bowl, takes considerable work with a fork to really break apart, and is somewhere between orange and bright vivid orange. This egg almost certainly tastes a lot better.<p>Is one healthier than the other? I don&#x27;t know. But you can tell just by looking at them that they have substantially different compositions.
avivalmost 7 years ago
It&#x27;s amazing to me that these studies (and the people who look at them and comment) rarely ever consider the difference between eggs from sick factory farmed chickens on a nasty grain diet, vs. pasture raised chickens fed on grass and forage.<p>People are just that clueless.
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gaddersalmost 7 years ago
For anyone who has the space (and they don&#x27;t need a lot of space), I recommend getting your own hens.<p>Great fun, and about as hard to look after as a rabbit. Plus the best eggs you will have ever tasted.
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crb002almost 7 years ago
How much is egg, and how much is having carbs alongside that egg early in the morning? There are some health benefits to intermittent fasting by not eating in the morning.
onion2kalmost 7 years ago
Does it count if it&#x27;s in a cake?
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ssijakalmost 7 years ago
Pointing fingers at just one food item is really dumb. Especially when you point that finger at the most nutrient dense and rich food on the planet. It is already shown that eating cholesterol will lower the cholesterol production so you end up with the same amount.<p>Aside from that. What is the rest of the diet, eating patterns, exercise, environment, stress levels, etc. Yeah sure egg or &lt;insert random food item here&gt; will make a world of a difference on its own &#x2F;endsarcasm. It is like taking a car to the mechanic for a checkup and he just check if front lights are working and try to conclude the state of the whole car.
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EGregalmost 7 years ago
Can someone summarize these findings? So is eating one egg a day “better” than not eating them at all?
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ianaialmost 7 years ago
(Opinion zone) Eggs cannot be healthy for you. They’re mostly cholesterol and saturated fat. The B vitamins in them come from supplementing their mothers with synthetics.<p>For the high caloric price of admission you get very little vitamins, minerals, and protein. Just look at their nutrient profile for proof: 1 egg nets you 10+% of your daily saturated fat recommendation, 14% riboflavin, 11% vitamin b12, and all other vitamins less than 8%. For the minerals, 23% of your selenium (really not something you need in abundance - google selenium overdose), 10% phosphorus, and the rest 5% or below. All of that for only about 1&#x2F;9th of your daily suggested protein.<p>So to get your daily protein from eggs you would need to overdose on cholesterol by almost 9 times the recommendation, consume 90+% of your saturated fat, and overdose on selenium, and so on.<p>And if that weren’t enough, you would be eating more fat (by weight) than protein.<p>Edit-fixed saturated fat content to 10%<p>Edit 2-The ratio of omega3 to omega6 is about 1:12. That should be more like 1:1 (preferably) or at least 1:4. So to correct that you would need to eat even more fats to correct that ratio intake.
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