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Ocean waves play greater role in trapping CO2 than previously understood

142 pointsby startupflixalmost 7 years ago

8 comments

phyzomealmost 7 years ago
Lest people think &quot;ooh, this is great!&quot; -- it&#x27;s not, at least not beyond &quot;having a better understanding of the world is good&quot;.<p>The following might be reasonable (if not necessarily feasible) carbon sinks:<p><pre><code> - Conversion to other materials (plastic, graphite, fuel (sort of)) - Injection into salt domes </code></pre> The following are bad carbon sinks:<p><pre><code> - Your lungs - The ocean </code></pre> CO2 dissolving in the ocean produces carbonic acid, and ocean acidification is a huge problem -- it dissolves the shells of a number of creatures, and fucks up the <i>entire biochemistry</i> of the ecosystem. Remember, a lot of bacteria (including ones right at the bottom of the food web) use the ocean water as a sort of communal extracellular medium for nutrient exchange, and pH affects nutrient availability differently for different nutrients. Changing the pH throws everything out of whack, just like making your blood more acidic or basic would hurt or kill you.
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FrozenVoidalmost 7 years ago
Co2 absorption is likely also enchanced by water&#x2F;air mixing that exists in uneven shore terrain, like bays&#x2F;fjords&#x2F;reefs&#x2F;underwater rocks&#x2F;etc which create powerful underwater currents with tides and weather. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;journals.ametsoc.org&#x2F;doi&#x2F;abs&#x2F;10.1175&#x2F;1520-0485(1989)019%3C0917:VMIBWO%3E2.0.CO;2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;journals.ametsoc.org&#x2F;doi&#x2F;abs&#x2F;10.1175&#x2F;1520-0485(1989)...</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedirect.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;pii&#x2F;0037073880900068" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedirect.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;pii&#x2F;0037073880...</a> There is also a biological component: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencemag.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;04&#x2F;tiny-shrimp-may-be-mixing-ocean-water-much-wind-and-waves" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencemag.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;04&#x2F;tiny-shrimp-may-be-m...</a>
jacob019almost 7 years ago
Are man made structures that interfere with the crashing of waves are having an effect on atmospheric CO2?
jimnotgymalmost 7 years ago
Excellent. Global warming&gt;more storms&gt; more waves&gt; more CO2 trapped... hard to make that in to a solution though!
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southern_crossalmost 7 years ago
Two stories just out of HWU, both related to the uptake of CO2 by the oceans and apparently pointing in opposite directions.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hw.ac.uk&#x2F;about&#x2F;news&#x2F;new-research-reveals-ocean-waves-play.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hw.ac.uk&#x2F;about&#x2F;news&#x2F;new-research-reveals-ocean-w...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hw.ac.uk&#x2F;about&#x2F;news&#x2F;invisible-barrier-on-ocean-surface-reduces.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hw.ac.uk&#x2F;about&#x2F;news&#x2F;invisible-barrier-on-ocean-s...</a>
petermcneeleyalmost 7 years ago
Tangential: Biosphere 2 had CO2 absorption issues with the concrete of the superstructure. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;biology.kenyon.edu&#x2F;slonc&#x2F;bio3&#x2F;2000projects&#x2F;carroll_d_walker_e&#x2F;whatwentwrong.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;biology.kenyon.edu&#x2F;slonc&#x2F;bio3&#x2F;2000projects&#x2F;carroll_d_...</a>
0xcafecafealmost 7 years ago
This is just depressing. Just a couple weeks back we saw the article about plastic being found at the botton of the Mariana trench and now this.
xstartupalmost 7 years ago
Peeing from sufficient height also traps CO2. Can anyone confirm?