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Avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth

35 pointsby lnguyenabout 7 years ago

8 comments

z_openabout 7 years ago
Disclaimer: I&#x27;m vegan<p>I really don&#x27;t know how to help attitudes move towards a plant based life-style. I don&#x27;t bother bringing it up because the second the topic is introduced, people feel attacked and that I&#x27;m just doing it to feel superior. Amusingly enough, it&#x27;s usually omnivores that bring up that topic but still are obviously uneasy about the whole thing.
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passiveincomelgabout 7 years ago
To me it would be ideal if plant based food was the default and animal products an expensive luxury. Not unaffordable, let&#x27;s say a dish with meat costs about twice as much as a vegan dish in most restaurants.<p>But I would already be perfectly happy and content if all the wonderful places in the world I want to visit had vegan food at all. Of course I understand that people struggling with hunger and poverty have more important things to worry about.<p>I don&#x27;t know what it takes to &quot;save the planet&quot;. Everyone going vegan might not be enough. But that ship has probably sailed anyway. The planet will have plenty of time to recover and&#x2F;or become something new after humans disappeared (themselves). What bugs me is seeing animals suffer, regardless of species (including humans ofc).
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cwkossabout 7 years ago
Killing yourself reduces your impact on the Earth by 100% - that doesn&#x27;t mean it is a productive thing to do. Individual action isn&#x27;t going to fix this. Each person&#x27;s contribution is too small. Systemic change is the only way to address this.<p>Modern industrialized agriculture has a lot of issues. Other methods of agriculture can have net-negative emissions: grow all of your feedstock onsite and use waste products to produce more feedstock. If all the carbon you emit was previously captured onsite, you&#x27;re only &#x27;borrowing&#x27; carbon, not really producing it. Slightly net-negative carbon as soil is built as a byproduct. See Joel Salatin for further reading.<p>I think writing articles about how &quot;You, individual, can do something to save the Earth&quot; is ineffective moralizing not unlike Facebook posts asking to &quot;Share this if you want to end human trafficking!&quot; - the only tangible effect is self-promotion of the author and inflating the self-esteem of the readers who go along with it.
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teachrdanabout 7 years ago
In addition to having fewer children (or none at all), I wonder how much of a difference it makes to have children later in life?<p>What&#x27;s the math on starting to have kids at 30 years of age instead of 20, especially if that pattern is repeated by your progeny?
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parliament32about 7 years ago
Suicide is, absolutely, the single biggest way to reduce your impact on Earth, period.<p>That doesn&#x27;t make it a good idea. Likewise, it&#x27;s not a good idea to pretend you&#x27;re not an omnivore.
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remirabout 7 years ago
Are there any studies regarding the body&#x27;s absorption of animal protein versus plant-based protein?<p>I feel like this subject is often very emotional for some people, but what about science?
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pier25about 7 years ago
Having fewer kids, or no kids at all, is actually the single biggest way to reduce impact on Earth.<p>Also, as can be seen on the graph of the article, the major problem is actually beef, and not meat in general.<p>Something the article doesn&#x27;t mention, and maybe the paper doesn&#x27;t take into account, is distribution. Fruits and vegetables can have a bigger footprint than certain meats because these can be transported off season from very long distances.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;the-ecotarian.com&#x2F;stories&#x2F;2016&#x2F;2&#x2F;26&#x2F;environmental-impacts-of-food-2-transport" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;the-ecotarian.com&#x2F;stories&#x2F;2016&#x2F;2&#x2F;26&#x2F;environmental-imp...</a>
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trevynabout 7 years ago
Hm, personally I’d prefer to have an impact on Earth.<p>Having no impact sounds terrible.