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Apple will attempt to jam Facebook's web-tracking tools

313 pointsby NoB4Mouthalmost 7 years ago

17 comments

hellofunkalmost 7 years ago
Apple is putting itself in an entertaining position in the industry. Most big tech firms have a business model that depends on user data. By explicitly taking the other side of that model, a fascinating new conflict is emerging between tech giants. And Apple is at least positioning itself on the sympathetic side of billions of users in this arena. This conflict will not die down -- the entire FB and Google business models cannot suddenly change to move away from user data collection, so this tech war will only get more pronounced and dramatic as time passes.
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geokonalmost 7 years ago
I think it&#x27;d be nice to have a browser option where it simply won&#x27;t load content from outside of the current domain. Though at the moment that would break a lot of the web, it&#x27;d be a much more neutral solution. To me what&#x27;s more alarming than Facebook is what percentage of websites load fonts&#x2F;js&#x2F;analytics from Google (even Freedesktop.org did till I pointed it out on their mailist). They don&#x27;t get a referral link (I think?) but they still effectively know when you&#x27;re online or not<p>Apple blacklisting sites&#x2F;companies is honestly more scary... that&#x27;s basically anti-net-neutrality.. if you&#x27;re naughty (or Apple doesn&#x27;t like you) you can&#x27;t have your images loaded?
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fnwx17almost 7 years ago
&gt; Apple&#x27;s attempts to block data tracking as you travel around the web could have a real impact on companies that rely on your personal information to make their billions.<p>asking the people that working in adtech, cross-device usage prediction and the likes: do you actually think it will disrupt your business or there are always workarounds and are relatively chill about it?
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CodeSheikhalmost 7 years ago
I would be more than happy to pay for a premium Facebook and premium Google where 0 tracking bytes are harvested about my activity and I just use their product as it is. But we all know that as much as some people sitting in the boardrooms of these companies would want a premium service model too they will never allow it. Tracking users make them money on multiple folds that premium revenue stream would be a chump-change for them.
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iliaznkalmost 7 years ago
So it really does have to do with Facebook services only? That&#x27;s what I thought yesterday, but still wasn&#x27;t sure. Why not all social media then? What if I do want to share&#x2F;like stuff? Just don&#x27;t use Safari?
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wyclifalmost 7 years ago
As of right now, you can&#x27;t post this story on Facebook. Coincidence?
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zerostar07almost 7 years ago
How to do GDPR correctly.
CodeSheikhalmost 7 years ago
I have been actively using Web 1.0, Web 2.0 and I do most of my shopping online. What always boggles my mind is that how do advertisers make money? I don&#x27;t remember the last time I actually saw an ad on Facebook&#x2F;Google, liked the product so much that I instantly bought it. Everyone I know in my circle would agree and comply with me.
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ourmandavealmost 7 years ago
From this link below, it looks like Apple doesn&#x27;t collect much data on you to begin with (vs Facebook, Google, and Twitter).<p><i>I asked Apple for all my data. Here&#x27;s what was sent back</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zdnet.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;apple-data-collection-stored-request&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zdnet.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;apple-data-collection-stored-r...</a><p>So is Apple trying to position itself as the Data Protector Platform You Can Trust? Like how The New York Times has seen a record increase in subscriptions because of fake news.
sametmaxalmost 7 years ago
So like firefox with the facebook container ? But with more PR ?
projectramoalmost 7 years ago
About 5 to 8 years after I expected it but a welcome decision
j2baxalmost 7 years ago
Does anyone know what Apple&#x27;s stance is on using Facebook&#x2F;Google&#x2F;etc for targeted advertising of their own products?<p>My assumption would be that they use every tool at their disposal to advertise&#x2F;sell their products, but I&#x27;d love to be pleasantly surprised and find out that they are putting their money where their mouth is on the flip side of this (the companies that pay for&#x2F;fund the collection of this data).
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ddtayloralmost 7 years ago
Is this a change to how they handle CORS overall or specifically a peephole check for Facebook?
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spacalmost 7 years ago
This is why I reward, and will keep rewarding Apple with my money. In a capitalistic system, voting with dollars may effect the change that voting with ballots may not.
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victor106almost 7 years ago
Apple should provide a default VPN service for all traffic that would be killer.
atulvialmost 7 years ago
I read apple jam and instantly went out to get bread
_cs2017_almost 7 years ago
The economic value of ad personalization is measured in hundreds of billions of dollars a year.<p>A part of that value goes to Facebook, Google, and other social media and advertising firms. A part goes to publishers, who provide free shit such as news to billions of people. A part goes to advertisers who get to sell more stuff. A part goes to consumers who get to see the aforementioned free news, plus occasionally see slightly less shitty ads.<p>When Apple blocks user data, it destroys a lot of economic value, which costs jobs; a lot of them are in the US since the biggest advertisers, publishers, and ad firms are US based.<p>Maybe it&#x27;s worth it because privacy. But it certainly hurts millions of people who depend, directly or indirectly, on the effectiveness of ads.
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