TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

Google faces EU antitrust fine over Android case

71 pointsby IBMalmost 7 years ago

10 comments

pdwalmost 7 years ago
The Wikipedia article on this case is much more informative: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;European_Union_vs._Google" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;European_Union_vs._Google</a><p>&gt; In their Statement of Objections, the European Commission accused Google of the breach of EU antitrust rules in three ways:<p>&gt; - by requiring mobile manufacturers to pre-install Google Search and Google Chrome browser and requiring them to set Google Search as default search service on their devices, as a condition to license certain Google proprietary apps;<p>&gt; - by preventing manufacturers from selling smart mobile devices running on competing operating systems based on the Android open source code;<p>&gt; - by giving financial incentives to manufacturers and mobile network operators on condition that they exclusively pre-install Google Search on their devices.
评论 #17256621 未加载
评论 #17257159 未加载
评论 #17264169 未加载
ApolloFortyNinealmost 7 years ago
Apple - OS only runs on their hardware, and you can only install applications approved by them.<p>Google - Allows any hardware manufacturer to use their OS, and you can install any application you want.<p>And yet the EU is going after Google?
评论 #17256374 未加载
评论 #17256576 未加载
评论 #17256543 未加载
评论 #17256519 未加载
评论 #17256512 未加载
评论 #17256716 未加载
评论 #17257829 未加载
ameliusalmost 7 years ago
If smartphones were open we wouldn&#x27;t have the whole problem. Why can&#x27;t we have the model of IBM clones of the 80s&#x2F;90s, where I actually own the device I buy. Right now, I can&#x27;t even become root on my device without tricks (which one day may not even work).
评论 #17256697 未加载
评论 #17256912 未加载
评论 #17258511 未加载
setqukalmost 7 years ago
Good. There&#x27;s nothing more annoying on Android than the Google app presence on it perhaps ironically and having this pushed at you all the time really puts you off.
评论 #17256390 未加载
lossoloalmost 7 years ago
People that do not understand why Android is free and fail to recognize how Google is using its dominating position in one market to dominate other market should read this &quot;Laws of Tech Economics: Commoditize Your Complement&quot; [1] and here HN discussion [2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gwern.net&#x2F;Complement#2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gwern.net&#x2F;Complement#2</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17047348" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17047348</a>
评论 #17257985 未加载
mankash666almost 7 years ago
This doesn&#x27;t make sense. Google gives away it&#x27;s OS for free. It&#x27;s the overwhelming major contributor to Android R&amp;D. What&#x27;s EU&#x27;s expectation here? Just give it away for free without an expectation of profit?<p>This is in contrast to the old Microsoft that required payments of about $40 for their OS license, and they further restricted browser choice etc. Google is nothing like that, the Android framework and underlying OS is fully open source. There exist non Google forks of Android, Amazon being the most famous.<p>Then there&#x27;s the whole worshipping of Apple - the most evil, monopolistic company on the planet. Apple&#x27;s only recourse seems to be their ~17% hardware market share. Though, that&#x27;s not really the lens to use. When considering the &#x27;mobile paid apps&#x27; market, their position immediately moves into Monopoly territory, and in that segment that fuck with the developers and consumers in every way possible.
评论 #17257156 未加载
mikelwardalmost 7 years ago
The 2016 blog post it refers to is presumably this one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.google&#x2F;topics&#x2F;google-europe&#x2F;android-choice-competition-response-europe&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.google&#x2F;topics&#x2F;google-europe&#x2F;android-choice-comp...</a>
falcon620almost 7 years ago
It&#x27;s interesting to see the HN reaction to this. The last time the EU fined Google a huge amount of money for anti-trust reasons the general sentiment here was that it was just socialist Europeans taxing American companies trying to make an honest living.<p>I guess Google is a lot less popular now compared to like two years ago.
评论 #17256563 未加载
评论 #17258075 未加载
评论 #17256554 未加载
评论 #17256797 未加载
jacksmith21006almost 7 years ago
Little silly. Google should just charge for Android and then credit if ship with their stuff. Problem solved.<p>Really think the EU risks getting a worse result with this type of thing.
评论 #17256366 未加载
评论 #17256287 未加载
评论 #17256327 未加载
tomkinsonalmost 7 years ago
Android isn&#x27;t the issue near as much as Google proper. - One answer seearch results scraped from sites to be dominant in keeping ppl on Google - Maps showing places scraped by Google - Google results order<p>These are the real anti-trust cases.