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What the Crypto Community Should Learn from GitHub's Acquisition

29 pointsby benmdialmost 7 years ago

9 comments

qsymmachusalmost 7 years ago
This is the thousandth time I&#x27;ve clicked on a &quot;crypto&quot; article expecting it to be about cryptography, and instead it&#x27;s about blockchain&#x2F;cryptocurrencies.<p>Is this a losing battle?
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nemildalmost 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve lived through a few eras, where open and&#x2F;or decentralized systems were expected to win (Internet, crypto today). For most users, the critical things are usability and utility, not decentralization.<p>If we care about decentralization, we have to care about these points even more, to make products competitive with what users are used to. Even though many engs I know value decentralization, most people won&#x27;t choose systems for this reason alone.<p>Just like with Github, there was a bunch of anger before when Slack was displacing IRC. I wrote some thoughts about what we&#x2F;I could learn from that example:<p>What Open Source Can Learn From Slack<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nemil.com&#x2F;musings&#x2F;oss-and-slack.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nemil.com&#x2F;musings&#x2F;oss-and-slack.html</a><p>If you really want to get more cynical, Tim Wu&#x27;s book &quot;The Master Switch&quot; is a masterful look at 20th century technologies (radio, telephone, telegraph) going through the idealism of the early days, to the inevitable frustration when it creates new anti-consumer behemoths.
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twblalockalmost 7 years ago
I expected this to be dumb, but it&#x27;s a very perceptive article that makes a very good point: There are a lot of benefits to centralization, and people who want to create decentralized systems need to recognize that and take the necessary steps to ensure their systems do not become re-centralized.
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phicohalmost 7 years ago
&quot;With this new set of powers, we saw a Cambrian explosion of open source that coincided with git&#x27;s adoption. [...] That&#x27;s where GitHub stepped in, providing elegant, centralized solutions around all of these new problems.&quot;<p>Did the author live in a parallel universe? There was an insane number of small open source projects way before git was created. And there was a clear place where to find them: SourceForge.<p>The cool things about git are the ability to sync repos and the ability to handle merging branches way better than SVN.<p>Everything else we had. Sourceforge dropped the ball and that allowed github to take its place.
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hudonalmost 7 years ago
This article would make more sense if crypto currencies were actually decentralized... that ship sailed maybe five years ago? Today, only a handful of corporations control the majority of the proof-of-work hashrate [0]. What’s more, development teams represent another centralized group (ie. you can count the devs that contribute to consensus code on 2 hands if you’re generous).<p>So my question is: in what way are crypto-currencies not already in the state the article is warning about? If I capture the lead commiter to your chain as well as the lead miner, don’t I effectively own the chain?<p>[0] “Both Bitcoin and Ethereum mining are very centralized, with the top four miners in Bitcoin and the top three miners in Ethereum controlling more than 50% of the hash rate.” <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackingdistributed.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;15&#x2F;decentralization-bitcoin-ethereum&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackingdistributed.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;15&#x2F;decentralization-bi...</a>
davesquealmost 7 years ago
This was actually a great article. So much crypto centered content nowadays is garbage. Very pleasantly surprised by this. I think there are even a lot of interesting related questions that were not explored in this relatively concise post.<p>Though I don&#x27;t have any problem with them today, services like Infura are definitely analogous to GitHub and may eventually become weak points in the same way.
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fwdpropagandaalmost 7 years ago
Very insightful article, thank you.<p>So the cycle is:<p>- problem exists<p>- quickly centralized solution to problem appears<p>- new problems appears<p>- slowly decentralized alternative solution to old problem appears<p>- repeat<p>I would add that it seems that the big winners are the ones coming up with centralized solutions. The inventors of decentralized solutions don&#x27;t have nearly as great rewards.
flyblackboxalmost 7 years ago
I am really upset about this acquisition.. And equally or more concerned with centralized power points, maybe to an extreme that is too radical. But I do believe at it&#x27;s core, crypto is different because it&#x27;s core ethos is to reject that notion. So while the internet disrupted centralized broadcasters with a decentralized protocol for content distribution, it wasn&#x27;t baked into the technologies ethos. So in my opinion, this difference of core mission, along with the ability to launch dApps (anonymously even, if you&#x27;d like) without fear of being shut down, will be a differentiation that protects this technology&#x27;s fate from creating new centralized choke points.<p>Ie. if Sean Parker was driven by the mission&#x2F;ethos of crypto, Napster couldn&#x27;t be taken down, people would still be using it today, and the traditional music industry would be dead (as well as traditional tech companies like Spotify).
mLubyalmost 7 years ago
This happens because `distributed &lt; distributed + centralized` nearly always.<p>For example, git is great, but git plus an (optional) issue tracker has more value, so that&#x27;s what people use.<p>Coincidentally (or perhaps causally?), FOSS &lt; FOSS + closed source.<p>The only way I can see this changing is if the distributed (or free or open-source) benefits of the system fail early and painfully when centralized (or paywalled or close-sourced). I can&#x27;t think of any such systems off the top of my head.
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