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Why do some job adverts put women off applying?

10 pointsby drumlalmost 7 years ago

3 comments

ben509almost 7 years ago
Activists tend to conflate a visible change with a useful change. The problem with tinkering with the language is that you might get (some) people to change their speech superficially, and you&#x27;re going to chalk that up as a success. But you have no real notion as to whether it&#x27;s doing anything productive. We&#x27;ve had a host of gender-neutral terms in professional life for decades now, but when I&#x27;m reading stuff on women&#x27;s issues, I don&#x27;t get any sense that women feel better off because of this. It&#x27;s just more linguistic landmines in the workplace.<p>And the article is counting stats on how many women apply. That runs headlong into the fundamental problem with diversity metrics: proportions in an organization not matching proportions in society are by themselves a genuine problem, but it&#x27;s taken for granted that this means something terribly dire. Then when you do some stuff and those numbers change, you have no idea if it&#x27;s due to anything you did, or if things are actually better. And you&#x27;re playing tribal politics, so it&#x27;s hard to see that &quot;my tribe benefited!&quot; is better for society as a whole.
DoreenMichelealmost 7 years ago
<i>&quot;It&#x27;s remarkable the number of job descriptions that are written with the same density and complexity as a Harvard Law Review article when you definitely don&#x27;t need a PhD to do the job itself,&quot;</i><p>I have about six years of college. I have over five years of corporate experience. This detail is vastly more problematic to my mind than supposedly subconsciously gendered language.<p>I was a homemaker for a lot of years. I tend to feel like it&#x27;s me, not the advertisement, as if I&#x27;m somehow missing important job hunting skillz or something. So I&#x27;m really happy to see that snippet in this article.
cwyersalmost 7 years ago
I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s a fair amount of signal there, but when they say &#x27;we&#x27;re not worried about why&#x27; I wonder how many false positives they end up going with.