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Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt

379 pointsby crunchlibrarianalmost 7 years ago

19 comments

makerofspoonsalmost 7 years ago
I went to school at the University of Colorado Boulder. Something this article doesn&#x27;t mention is that the city already has over 100 miles of fiber laid that isn&#x27;t currently being lit up: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.govtech.com&#x2F;dc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;Boulder-Colo-To-Light-Up-Fiber-Optic-Network.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.govtech.com&#x2F;dc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;Boulder-Colo-To-Light-Up-...</a>. There were several groups of students looking to build companies to utilize this existing infrastructure, as well as business interests outside the city, but it just never went anywhere. I hope that it will see use soon, I was very envious of my friends that would commute in from nearby Longmont that could use their awesome municipal ISP.
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rayineralmost 7 years ago
Some back of the napkin math. $140 million for 40,000 households in Boulder = $3,500 per household. If 50% of people subscribe (typical for municipal broadband), that&#x27;s $7,000 per subscribing household, or higher than Charter&#x27;s market cap per subscriber.<p>A quarter of the population of the city is below the poverty line. If the intent is to offer them subsidized broadband, let&#x27;s assume we get no capital recovery from those households. That brings the cost to $4,666 per household, or $9,300 per subscribing household.<p>This is high, but not out of the ballpark. Verizon spent about $3,500 on average for each paying subscriber for FiOS. Chattanooga&#x27;s system was about $5,500 per household.
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kyrraalmost 7 years ago
Longmont (which is ~12 miles north of Boulder) got municiple broadband a while back. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.longmontcolorado.gov&#x2F;departments&#x2F;departments-e-m&#x2F;longmont-power-communications&#x2F;broadband-service" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.longmontcolorado.gov&#x2F;departments&#x2F;departments-e-m...</a><p>This also follows Fort Collins from 7 months ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;tech-policy&#x2F;2017&#x2F;11&#x2F;voters-reject-cable-lobby-misinformation-campaign-against-muni-broadband&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;tech-policy&#x2F;2017&#x2F;11&#x2F;voters-reject-ca...</a><p>Note that Longmont took a couple attempts I believe to get it passed (it failed in 2009 and 2011, then passed in 2013)
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tschellenbachalmost 7 years ago
I moved from Amsterdam to Boulder, CO. The tech ecosystem is amazing here. It&#x27;s crazy how many tech companies are in a tiny city with ~100k people. You just walk down the street and it&#x27;s Nest, Google, Github, JumpCloud, SolidFire, Logrhythm, VictorOps and hundreds of smaller startups. Great ecosystem. People are friendly and welcoming. It&#x27;s amazing, except the internet. It&#x27;s expensive, unreliable, and slowwwww.
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JumpCrisscrossalmost 7 years ago
Boulder has a population of about 110,000 people [1]. Given &quot;the estimated cost of the entire network is around $140 million&quot; [2], the per-capita cost of this network comes to $1,300.<p>I pay $80 a month for my 300 &#x2F; 20 service. In 16 months, I would be able to pay for my share of this network.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Boulder,_Colorado" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Boulder,_Colorado</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dailycamera.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;boulder&#x2F;ci_31941127&#x2F;public-support-high-boulder-moves-fund-citywide-fiber?source=mostpopular" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dailycamera.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;boulder&#x2F;ci_31941127&#x2F;public-s...</a>
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d--balmost 7 years ago
The bigger picture is Boulder is attracting startups.<p>Having fiber broadband is a plus to that attraction. So a better broadband means a better economy: more activity, more jobs, more people, more taxes... The cost of that infrastructure makes total sense.
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exabrialalmost 7 years ago
I works really like one of these projects to trial a &#x27;practical&#x27; last mile, like something like cat6 for the last 100m.<p>In KC, I live in a 4 story apt, and frequently stopped to talk to the installers when Google fiber was pulling everything into the building. It really is Fiber to a jack in your unit, but the last 5ft is <i>still</i> copper Ethernet. I figure they could have saved themselves a bundle of $ if they ran copper inside the building. The consumer wouldn&#x27;t notice and it&#x27;s a lot more practical.
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thelastidiotalmost 7 years ago
Once in a while a story about another city getting fiber, while it&#x27;s fantastic (without knowing much about the cost), progress is slow and even in the heart of the Bay Area, we are pathetically lagging. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fiber.google.com&#x2F;newcities&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fiber.google.com&#x2F;newcities&#x2F;</a> is looking sparse and honestly worrisome. It&#x27;s amazing how much the US is behind implementing another solution they invented.
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yawzalmost 7 years ago
I work in downtown Boulder in a tech startup. The tech and startup scene is amazing for a city the size of Boulder. After Longmont and Fort Collins, finally Boulder will be getting the municipal broadband as well. Nice!!!
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leesalminenalmost 7 years ago
Neighboring Longmont has had municipal internet for years with success. Everyone I know is pretty happy with it. Glad to see Boulder is joining the party.<p>Although I don’t live in Boulder (anymore), my office is there. I’ll be glad to stop paying Comcast for terrible quality service.
keeganjwalmost 7 years ago
I have municipal telecom where I live in Vermont and it waaaaay faster and cheaper than the competition. It makes Comcast look like a joke. Hopefully, Boulder will have a similar outcome.
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JustSomeNobodyalmost 7 years ago
What type of software engineering jobs are available in that area?
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zer0faithalmost 7 years ago
Considering all the mergers that are going down I hope that eventually more cities follow this model.
therealdrag0almost 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve had Verizon FiOS fiber and it was just as bad as when I had terrible Comcast. Now I have Comcast in a different neighborhood and it&#x27;s great.<p>Personally, availability&#x2F;stability is WAY more important than bandwidth. I don&#x27;t know what I&#x27;d do with over 200mbps. But in some of the places I lived, during peak hours, the internet would just stop working. That was very frustrating.
bagacrapalmost 7 years ago
The article mentions that ~5% of residences don&#x27;t have internet, but I would wager the majority of those do have smartphones and can easily access the internet via cell data, coffee shops, public outdoor wifi, etc. Is it really that much of a travesty if it&#x27;s hard to stream movies on your couch?
adultSwimalmost 7 years ago
Municipal control of infrastructure +1
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tunapalmost 7 years ago
I sure hope they don&#x27;t need to open up roads(lane closures) to pull the fiber. Traffic is already agonizing, closures would make the commuting nightmare even worse for cars, buses &amp; bikes alike.
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bwbalmost 7 years ago
I am in boulder and can&#x27;t wait, comcast fucking sucks, they just raised my rates from $79 to ~$120 with no warning, i hate them so much...
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therealtomsmithalmost 7 years ago
Now all your information can go through government-ran hubs!