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Opinion: Elsevier are corrupting open science in Europe

244 pointsby slbenficaalmost 7 years ago

10 comments

DrBazzaalmost 7 years ago
Elsevier have always been like this, it&#x27;s just that now, with cheap internet globally available and having seen what Napster did to the record industry (indirectly creating Spotify, Apple music, etc.) they&#x27;re fighting to protect their monopoly with whatever (dirty) tricks they can muster.<p>As far as I can see, the only things they now provide that hasn&#x27;t been replicated as a &#x27;free service&#x27; is matching editors and referees to submissions, and journals of repute, i.e. publish in Nature and it&#x27;s a bona fide article, publish on your blog and no-one knows who you are or whether your work was refereed.<p>To be clear Sci-Hub merely provides copies of work that has been accepted for publication in a journal, it&#x27;s not a free replacement for the full &#x27;service&#x27; that Elsevier and other publishers provide.
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afandianalmost 7 years ago
This contract is causing outrage in the open science corner of the world. Many people think this is a conflict of interest. And many are unhappy that closed, private infrastructure is being used. In the broader context, hardly a day goes by without a story about problematic public infrastructure contracts. Organised commercial companies always have an advantage over open, transparent, community projects.<p>Here&#x27;s my take on the collection of some of this kind of data:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.afandian.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;05&#x2F;five-principles-altmetrics&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.afandian.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;05&#x2F;five-principles-altmetrics...</a>
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Cenkalmost 7 years ago
Every student I know already uses Sci-Hub anyway, either directly or through Citationsy Archives (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;citationsy.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;new-feature-citationsy-archives&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;citationsy.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;new-feature-citationsy-archives&#x2F;</a>). All this does is push everyone further into piracy.
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eveningcoffeealmost 7 years ago
It looks to be a major miscalculation by the European Commission and they should fix it.
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DanielleMolloyalmost 7 years ago
The business model of these large publishing companies is not selling access, it is peer review. Science and Nature keep their reputation despite Elsevier because it is notoriously hard to pass their peer review process, and the academic world trusts it.<p>We may live in a better academic world if rigorous peer reviewing was a full-time paid job. Presumably it would not be difficult to do better than 90% of the current peer reviewing by letting people with full-time experience (and the overview of the state of science that comes with it) do it. It may also solve a couple of other problems with anonymous peer reviewing.<p>(eventually with ever-more complex methodology and involvement of complex programming routines and tools we still have to get rid of the scientific paper as the main form of communication)
Lucalmost 7 years ago
This is what the finest lobbyists at the highest level can buy you...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Protohedgehog&#x2F;status&#x2F;1005064249763385344" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Protohedgehog&#x2F;status&#x2F;1005064249763385344</a>
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Havocalmost 7 years ago
Does it matter? I get the impression that big journal has essentially already lost the war.<p>The open line of reasoning seems to align well with scientists so I don&#x27;t a version where it doesn&#x27;t slowly take over the world.
dougmccunealmost 7 years ago
One thing to keep in mind is that none of this, even when it comes to Elsevier, is black and white. Yes, Elsevier has been one of the staunchest opponents of the move to Open Access. And yet simultaneously, Elsevier has made one of the most aggressive pushes into OA publishing. They are likely the largest OA publisher by article volume today. Yes, they have the most to lose with a big shift to OA, but they also have the most to gain. And OA publishing has proven that it can be very very profitable, particularly for Elsevier.<p>The argument in the piece is largely that Elsevier is a bad actor in the larger academic publishing space, so therefore they shouldn&#x27;t be given the contract&#x2F;power to produce reports for the EU about the movement to open access. But even if you hate Elsevier, they are indeed in a position to have a lot of the data needed. Elsevier isn&#x27;t just a publisher, they&#x27;re a data company as well. They compile a database of all journals and citations (as do a few others, like for-profit Clarivate and non-profit Crossref). They have bought up a number of analytics companies (Mendeley, Plum), as the article makes note of. So like it or not (and I assume most people don&#x27;t like it), they do indeed have a huge amount of the data needed for a project like the EU Open Science Monitor.<p>The argument about conflict of interest is a valid argument, but feels like it&#x27;s getting overblown in this context. The author argues that Elsevier&#x27;s CiteScore metric (a competitor with Journal Impact Factor from Clarivate) is biased toward Elsevier content. Except CiteScore isn&#x27;t being used at all in the Open Science Monitor [1]. They&#x27;re only using total citation counts that come from a variety of sources. So the author manufactures a conflict of interest to bolster his point that isn&#x27;t backed up by the facts.<p>Plum analytics is mentioned as a conflict, except the only data from Plum that&#x27;s being used is Twitter mentions, so I don&#x27;t see what the perverse incentive is - nobody would be inclined to use Plum Analytics, they&#x27;d just be inclined to game Twitter.<p>The use of Mendeley readership stats I do find bullshit. That&#x27;s a clear case of Elsevier pushing the use of their product, and I think that should be removed as a metric entirely. I think most &quot;social&quot; signals should probably be removed, like Twitter mentions, because IMO they&#x27;re not good indicators of quality at all.<p>What we really need is some set of metrics that can quantify real-world impact of scientific findings. For social science this would be something like the effect on public policy and societal outcomes. For medicine, something like the number of people in the global population positively impacted. These are really hard things to measure and quantify, but I do think there&#x27;s a need for something more than citation-based impact metrics.<p>Disclaimer: I&#x27;m a family owner and director of Sage Publications, a private for-profit publisher that does a lot of both paywall and open access academic publishing.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;info&#x2F;sites&#x2F;info&#x2F;files&#x2F;open_science_monitor_methodological_note_v2.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;info&#x2F;sites&#x2F;info&#x2F;files&#x2F;open_science_moni...</a>
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rdlecler1almost 7 years ago
We wanted free news and look where that got us. Hopefully the open source research model also doesn’t go in that direction eventually.
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BrandoElFollitoalmost 7 years ago
I do not really understand the outrage.<p>Nobody forces you to publish in Elsevier journals. Just publish it in a blog, where there will be comments. Out of these you make your choice whether the publication makes sense.<p>The ones to blame are univesities and grant commitees which use the impact index as The Universal Science Ruler.<p>It is akin to blaming Oracle for closing their databases. You do &#x27;ot like it, move to Postgres, mysql or something else.<p>Yes, quality of publications will suffer for some time. Yes, papers (blog posts) will be more difficult to get to but it will settle down. Until we have open source science.
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