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Air Gapping a MacBook Air: The Great BCM15700A2 Mystery

227 pointsby jeffo_rulezalmost 7 years ago

10 comments

kabdibalmost 7 years ago
I&#x27;m imagining a &quot;stealth&quot; wifi controller on one of the custom chips, hung onto a pin connected to an internal antenna realized on an internal copper layer of the motherboard. If you used a non-standard frequency and protocol, who would know?<p>You could probably get an okay transmit-only signal with fairly unremarkable on-chip hardware (say, a simple PCM) and something that didn&#x27;t look <i>too</i> much like an antenna even if you X-ray&#x27;d the board. I&#x27;m guessing that a similarly stealthy receiver would be noticeable due to required external discrete components (e.g., amplifiers, filter networks).<p>Plonking down a whole chip for &quot;secret wifi&quot; is likely overkill.
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userbinatoralmost 7 years ago
<i>We’re not sure exactly what the technicians did to remove the chip – heat gun, maybe? – but it came off cleanly and you wouldn’t notice it was missing unless you were specifically looking for it on the board.</i><p>Almost certainly, or more precisely, a &quot;hot air rework station&quot;. For someone with experience, it only takes a few minutes to remove and replace BGAs with one.
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8bitsrulealmost 7 years ago
This story made me realize: I haven&#x27;t seen the phrase &quot;tin-foil hat&quot; used much in the past couple of years. Huh.<p>Which reminded me of a quote:<p>&quot;For a while you wondered whether the fools were pretending to be fools as some kind of deception, or whether there was a real efficient service somewhere else. Later in my fiction, I invented one. But alas the reality was the mediocrity.&quot; — Le Carre
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Someone1234almost 7 years ago
In Apple&#x27;s computers the web cam light cannot be disabled, because the web cam is controlled by a co-processor as demoed here. In the newer Pros with Touchbar Apple uses their own chip for this same function.<p>On a lot of PC webcams, you can run the camera without the light or visa versa[0].<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.erratasec.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;12&#x2F;how-to-disable-webcam-light-on-windows.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.erratasec.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;12&#x2F;how-to-disable-webcam-lig...</a>
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mjleealmost 7 years ago
&gt; This sounded reasonable, so I ventured to the streets of New York City to seek the help of some professionals!<p>If the author of the article is here - I&#x27;d suggest turning to Louis Rossmann of YouTube fame:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rossmanngroup.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rossmanngroup.com&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;rossmanngroup" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;rossmanngroup</a><p>He has the equipment and skill to repair a logic board, and may have some valuable insights about failure modes of common chips on MacBooks.
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amagumorialmost 7 years ago
uhhh...how does this prove that the chip doesn&#x27;t have radio functionality? they didn&#x27;t figure out any information about the chip&#x27;s actual functionality beyond its PCI device name, which would ostensibly not be &quot;SUPER SECRET DATA EXFILTRATION RADIO FOR NSA&quot;. they just took it off, unplugged the wifi card, and then said &quot;well, it doesn&#x27;t connect to wifi networks now. must be fine&quot;.
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walrus01almost 7 years ago
If you really need an air gapped computer, wouldn&#x27;t it make a whole lot more sense to build a desktop with some variety of ATX form factor motherboard that you can examine in detail to confirm that it has zero wireless functionality?<p>A Macbook Air, which is pretty much designed as a wifi-dependent network terminal, would be way down my list of hardware I would choose if I had to build an airgap lab environment.
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y04nnalmost 7 years ago
If you do some search you can find logic boards PCB layouts and electronic schematics on internet.<p>Here is a link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple-schematic.se&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple-schematic.se&#x2F;</a><p>Edit: And to look at the PCB files I recommend <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openboardview.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openboardview.org&#x2F;</a>
carlospwkalmost 7 years ago
Can I just say how beautiful and usable this minimal styling and design on the website is?
madengralmost 7 years ago
I suppose looking for the antenna is rocket science.