TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

Timeline of the far future

696 pointsby speeqalmost 7 years ago

39 comments

21almost 7 years ago
&gt; <i>The length of the day used for astronomical timekeeping reaches about 86,401 SI seconds. Under the present-day timekeeping system, either a leap second would need to be added to the clock every single day, or else by then, in order to compensate, the length of the day would have had to have been officially lengthened by one SI second.</i><p>Can you just imagine the amount of legacy code with DAY_SECONDS=86400 out there 50k years from now?
评论 #17560152 未加载
评论 #17562720 未加载
评论 #17561085 未加载
评论 #17564069 未加载
评论 #17563547 未加载
评论 #17567475 未加载
评论 #17565400 未加载
评论 #17565912 未加载
评论 #17563109 未加载
评论 #17564308 未加载
评论 #17560332 未加载
评论 #17562283 未加载
netgustoalmost 7 years ago
Fascinating: &quot;10^(10^50) years: Estimated time for a <i>Boltzmann brain</i> to appear in the vacuum via a spontaneous entropy decrease.&quot; [1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Boltzmann_brain" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Boltzmann_brain</a><p>&gt; [...] a <i>Boltzmann brain</i> is a self-aware entity that arises due to extremely rare random fluctuations out of a state of thermodynamic equilibrium. [...]
评论 #17561036 未加载
评论 #17560210 未加载
评论 #17565454 未加载
评论 #17560172 未加载
评论 #17559970 未加载
stallmanitealmost 7 years ago
My all-time favorite wikipedia article, great to see it getting some attention. I find that along with providing great fodder for small-talk (among certain types), it causes me to experience a psychological effect analogous to the so-called &quot;overview effect&quot; experienced by astronauts. Attempting to conceive of one&#x27;s place in cosmological time is great exercise.
评论 #17561938 未加载
评论 #17567426 未加载
评论 #17564769 未加载
评论 #17566640 未加载
评论 #17562995 未加载
评论 #17562036 未加载
评论 #17562721 未加载
24gttghhalmost 7 years ago
&gt;Goldstein, Natalie (2009). Global Warming. Infobase Publishing. p. 53. &quot;The last time acidification on this scale occurred (about 65 mya) it took more than 2 million years for corals and other marine organisms to recover; some scientists today believe, optimistically, that it could take tens of thousands of years for the ocean to regain the chemistry it had in preindustrial times.&quot;<p>In my opinion, this is the greatest threat to humanity of continuing to pump CO2 into the atmosphere.
评论 #17563260 未加载
johnchristopheralmost 7 years ago
While the topic is on. I am trying to find a short story I read some years ago (4-5) about the evolution of life on our planet in the far future.<p>Warning, massive spoilers:<p>There are like 5 or 6 mass extinction events followed by a new civilization each time built by a different specie. At some points a raven civilization goes on the moon (they always had an innate tendency to go higher) and find an old rover, then it jumps to another civ. and the earth is totally smooth and people are living in holes in the ground (this might be another story from Baxter). Then it&#x27;s some earth inner core creatures fungi-like. It ends with the sun expansion making life on earth impossible and a mars creature pondering all that.<p>Rings any bells ?
评论 #17561746 未加载
评论 #17560579 未加载
评论 #17562265 未加载
评论 #17560642 未加载
评论 #17560644 未加载
评论 #17578246 未加载
评论 #17560147 未加载
mockingbirdyalmost 7 years ago
&gt; Current data suggest that the universe has a flat geometry (or very close to flat), and thus, will not collapse in on itself after a finite time, and the infinite future allows for the occurrence of a number of massively improbable events, such as the formation of Boltzmann brains.<p>I always thought that the universe will just reach zero Kelvin and the party is over. That it will just continue to do improbable stuff was beyond my imagination. I don&#x27;t really understand how it should be possible that effects like the emergence of virtual particles still work if all the energy is now in a form which can&#x27;t be used for energy transformations anymore (entropy) - I know that annihilation of anti-particles of virtual particles (which causes them to exist - that was the amazing finding of Hawking with the Hawking radiation where the anti-particles of virtual particles get annihilated at the event horizon and his counterpart is happily living on because he got lucky that he wasn&#x27;t too close) is a way to form new particles &quot;out of nothing&quot; (using quantum effects), but I still can&#x27;t believe that this still works when <i>nothing&#x27;s moving because we&#x27;re at absolute zero</i>.<p>Could someone explain why those quantum effects still continue to work (and sometimes even spawn particles and even brains if we get lucky) even if the universe is at absolute zero?
评论 #17560301 未加载
评论 #17560482 未加载
评论 #17560277 未加载
评论 #17561022 未加载
评论 #17564705 未加载
TangoTrotFoxalmost 7 years ago
Some of these are ironically myopic: &quot;<i>10,000 years: If globalization trends lead to panmixia, human genetic variation will no longer be regionalized, as the effective population size will equal the actual population size. This does not mean homogeneity, as minority traits will still be preserved, e.g. the blonde gene will not disappear, but it will be rather evenly distributed worldwide.</i>&quot;<p>That prediction makes the rather questionable assumption that humans will still be primarily, if not entirely, on Earth in 10,000 years! Interplanetary colonization will likely dwarf the regional evolutionary isolation we&#x27;ve experienced on this planet. In the longrun it will likely even trend towards speciation (as a more reasonable prediction further on does hit on.) Consider that a European, an African, and a Japanese all share an <i>incredibly</i> recent ancestor.<p>The exciting thing about interplanetary colonization is once the technology starts to become robust, our potential growth and expansion is effectively unlimited. It would be like if the western frontier in the US was uninhabited and somehow went on to infinity. The implications of this are difficult to even imagine.
评论 #17573236 未加载
评论 #17564557 未加载
djsumdogalmost 7 years ago
A number of Science Fiction works talk about how prediction is more accurate the further out you go into the future, but how predictions in the short term are not so much.<p>Like the episode of Deep Space 9 where Bashier works with the other genetically modified humans. They talk about how eventually the galaxy will come to an end due to entropy, but their predictions for the Dominion War had too many variables to accurately predict close up.<p>Psycho-history and Foundation is sorta like this, but I think Issac Asimov doesn&#x27;t do as good a job with this story&#x2F;theory&#x2F;believably.
评论 #17562381 未加载
lowdestalmost 7 years ago
If this is interesting to you, I highly recommend &quot;Science &amp; Futurism with Isaac Arthur&quot; available on Youtube and in other formats.
评论 #17560410 未加载
评论 #17564420 未加载
评论 #17561946 未加载
jsdaltonalmost 7 years ago
Amazing that the entirety of human civilization as we know it fits in a smaller time scale than the very first event on this timeline (10,000 years from now).<p>So while these time spans are minuscule on an astronomical scale, they are enormous on a human scale.
评论 #17560322 未加载
评论 #17563304 未加载
amingilanialmost 7 years ago
Relevant Kurzgesagt video explaining 3 ways the universe will die: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=4_aOIA-vyBo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=4_aOIA-vyBo</a><p>I&#x27;ve been posting too many Kurzgesagt videos recently, but it&#x27;s amazing how much of their content is relevant! :D
mrkstualmost 7 years ago
This reminded me of a question I&#x27;ve had knocking around in my head since I&#x27;ve heard of hawking radiation- the prediction is that the black holes slowly evaporate into subatomic particles.<p>However, it seems to me at some point a critical juncture would be passed and the black hole would cease being bound gravitationally and the matter would be released similarly to a supernova or just spontaneously form a neutron star.<p>What is the fallacy in that thinking?
评论 #17562345 未加载
评论 #17563973 未加载
评论 #17566143 未加载
schintanalmost 7 years ago
The further I read, the smaller I feel.
评论 #17560251 未加载
评论 #17560069 未加载
评论 #17560848 未加载
评论 #17560085 未加载
评论 #17560023 未加载
anad7almost 7 years ago
Years from now: 2.4 million<p>Java is still at the top of the TIOBE index. Moreover, the familiar Java update progress dialog will display &quot;100 Trillion Devices Run Java Across Thousands of Galaxies&quot;.
blisterpeanutsalmost 7 years ago
Reading that timeline was quite a trip. Humanity is really just a tiny blip in the grand scale of time.<p>They don&#x27;t talk much about AI and other synthetic replacements for humanity. Maybe it&#x27;s just too difficult to extrapolate.<p>One can guess, though, that long before another 10,000 years have passed, we will have developed artificial beings that are billions of times smarter than we are.<p>By then, we probably will have augmented our minds and bodies to the point where we are vastly more intelligent and powerful as well, so perhaps we will survive in some form or other.
评论 #17561701 未加载
davidwalmost 7 years ago
Now I feel like a moron for going to speak about housing issues at the city council meeting...
owenversteegalmost 7 years ago
One of my favorite Wikipedia pages of all time. A little sad that there are only three Biology events there though: North American earthworms spreading to Canada, coral reefs recovering, and C4 photosynthesis no longer possible. Can anyone think of more possible biology events?
评论 #17562813 未加载
ganonmalmost 7 years ago
I&#x27;d highly recommend taking a look at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.futuretimeline.net&#x2F;21stcentury&#x2F;2020.htm#2020-2025" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.futuretimeline.net&#x2F;21stcentury&#x2F;2020.htm#2020-202...</a>
SketchySeaBeastalmost 7 years ago
&gt; The red supergiant star Antares will likely have exploded in a supernova. The explosion is expected to be easily visible in daylight.<p>Wow, I&#x27;d love to be able to see that. Makes one sad about all the things they&#x27;ll never get to experience.
评论 #17564136 未加载
评论 #17566809 未加载
sgillenalmost 7 years ago
It’s very interesting to speculate about all this, and also crazy to think all these predictions were only made in the last century. I wonder how much different this list will look in another 100 years (if at all).
lakshaygalmost 7 years ago
&gt; <i>230 million - Prediction of the orbits of the planets is impossible over greater time spans than this, due to the limitations of Lyapunov time.</i><p>&gt; <i>[...]</i><p>&gt; <i>3.3 billion - 1% chance that Jupiter&#x27;s gravity may make Mercury&#x27;s orbit so eccentric as to collide with Venus, sending the inner Solar System into chaos. Possible scenarios include Mercury colliding with the Sun, being ejected from the Solar System, or colliding with Earth.</i><p>Are these statements contradictory or am I missing something?
评论 #17560529 未加载
评论 #17560987 未加载
评论 #17560531 未加载
Rainymoodalmost 7 years ago
This is extremely interesting, but couldn&#x27;t it be that in 10.000 our technology has advanced so much that we are able to &quot;refill&quot; dying stars for example? I mean, look at how much we have achieved in the past 1000 years, exponential technology growth over a timefrime 10x that can be unimaginable now.<p>These are cool predictions but they need not be true
评论 #17564147 未加载
h4koralmost 7 years ago
Can someone explain:<p>&gt; 800 million Carbon dioxide levels fall to the point at which C4 photosynthesis is no longer possible.[57] Without plant life to recycle oxygen in the atmosphere, free oxygen and the ozone layer will disappear from the atmosphere. All multicellular life will die out.[58]
评论 #17562058 未加载
评论 #17562269 未加载
评论 #17562080 未加载
christianbryantalmost 7 years ago
While I&#x27;m not totally on board with outlooks on a technological singularity a la Kurzweil and peers, what does it mean that there is no real representation of that idea here? For example, Kurzweil&#x27;s &quot;law of accelerating returns&quot; where the speed of technological change increases exponentially has many flaws according to scientists I respect greatly, yet also has many hints at possible futures, ironically also according to scientists I respect greatly.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Technological_singularity" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Technological_singularity</a>
评论 #17562594 未加载
kulu2002almost 7 years ago
The Timeline talks about Nuclear waste but what about cumulative effect of daily garbage, solid waste, plastic degradation until human beings survive on earth...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thebalancesmb.com&#x2F;how-long-does-it-take-garbage-to-decompose-2878033" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thebalancesmb.com&#x2F;how-long-does-it-take-garbage-...</a><p>I think this should have been mentioned somewhere in &#x27;Human constructs&#x27; section
nicklafalmost 7 years ago
And then there&#x27;s this: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.exitmundi.nl&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.exitmundi.nl&#x2F;</a> ;-)
monkeydustalmost 7 years ago
Awesome piece. Will have to read that one again and bookmark it. Puts all life&#x27;s little shitty events into context!
myoffealmost 7 years ago
I was getting depressed towards the end of the event list, and the last one cheered me up. Everything is circular.
评论 #17564874 未加载
Symmetryalmost 7 years ago
A blog post I made putting this and the timeline of life on Earth on the same graph:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hopefullyintersting.blogspot.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;the-drake-equation-again.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hopefullyintersting.blogspot.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;the-drake-eq...</a>
kerbalspaceproalmost 7 years ago
Who knew that the &quot;store stuff forever&quot; problem was basically solved:<p>[1]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;5D_optical_data_storage" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;5D_optical_data_storage</a>
amorphousalmost 7 years ago
Is someone aware of any non-fiction book that imagines the far future? There&#x27;re plenty of good books about the past, but I&#x27;m not aware of something that spins a tale similar to this article, it could make a great read.
Udikalmost 7 years ago
Fascinating reading, but does anybody else find it incredibly depressing? Everything we&#x27;ve seen, every place we loved, everything we&#x27;ve produced, every bit of our history, literature, arts, every smallest trace of our passage in the universe, and every living being, species, descendant or distant cousin, is going to be pulverized, baked, incinerated and atomized. Not even too far from now, in geological terms- much before the universe has stopped producing new stars and planets and new life.
maxxxxxalmost 7 years ago
Pretty useful for real estate investors who want to plan ahead for the next few hundred million years....
anonymous5133almost 7 years ago
TIL: I don&#x27;t really know how much about the future and all there is to know in science....
yedawgalmost 7 years ago
this is one of the worst put together wikipedia articles I have ever read
pascalxusalmost 7 years ago
if you enjoyed this, you&#x27;ll probably like this as well: library of babel <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;libraryofbabel.info&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;libraryofbabel.info&#x2F;</a>
billsmithaustinalmost 7 years ago
This really belongs in XKCD.
mlthoughts2018almost 7 years ago
My only question is whether the world’s cumulative student loan debt will have been paid back before the red giant Sun engulfs Earth.
dsfyu404edalmost 7 years ago
Anyone who was holding their breath waiting for coastal California to fall into the ocean is going to be disappointment to find out it&#x27;s not happening in their lifetime.
评论 #17562386 未加载