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Ask HN: Copying already existing product and making it better

37 pointsby fandorinalmost 7 years ago
hi,<p>I was wondering if any of you have successfully copied* already existing product and created its better version and, as a result, ended up with a successful startup.<p>* I am talking about the situation when you are using some tool and thinking to yourself: &#x27;well, it&#x27;s working, but there are at least 10 things that can be improved, maybe I will create the better version of it?&#x27;

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swaggyBoatswainalmost 7 years ago
There&#x27;s no such thing as originality in many cases. Everything is based off of something else. Many video games and books have similar plotlines. I had to do research for CRM systems for a nonprofit and there&#x27;s like over 100 of them. I&#x27;m sure they are all different in some way shape or form, but I don&#x27;t know enough about CRM&#x27;s to say anything here.<p>There&#x27;s a really good writeup of a european company called &quot;Rocket&quot; that does exactly this, it was mentioned in hackernews somewhere before<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.co.uk&#x2F;article&#x2F;inside-the-clone-factory" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.co.uk&#x2F;article&#x2F;inside-the-clone-factory</a><p>I have an app idea I wish to pursue that doesn&#x27;t yet exist, but its the merger between 2 common pieces of software in the market. Building it would be a huge time saver in things I struggle everyday, I imagine others would feel so as well. I couldn&#x27;t find anything in any alternatives I&#x27;ve tried and tested.
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vannevaralmost 7 years ago
You&#x27;ve literally described Steve Jobs&#x27; entire career. Finding the key tweaks that turn a good product into a great product is a very effective business strategy, but actually pulling it off is an art.
tothrowawayalmost 7 years ago
That&#x27;s my bread-and-butter. I take a good SaaS and strip it down so it&#x27;s simpler for people to use (and for me to build). Then I sell it for significantly less than my competitor. Simple &amp; cheap is &quot;better&quot; for some people.<p>The trick is to find a good niche, so you can build a bunch of semi-related SaaS apps and cross market them. I&#x27;ve found developer related SaaS (web browser testing, PDF generation, log analysis, cron notifications, etc) are highly saturated.<p>To be fair, none of my products qualify as &quot;startups&quot;. But building a lifestyle business has a lot of perks (no stress).
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amorphousalmost 7 years ago
Everything is a remix. The problem is, blindly copying just the features of a product is most likely not going to work. You need to understand the whole business and figure out what to copy and what to improve. In other words: you need to understand the customer.<p>Something to read:<p>- &quot;Copycats: How Smart Companies Use Imitation to Gain a Strategic Edge&quot;<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ribbonfarm.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;08&#x2F;03&#x2F;down-with-innovation-up-with-imitation&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ribbonfarm.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;08&#x2F;03&#x2F;down-with-innovation-u...</a>
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insomniacityalmost 7 years ago
Don&#x27;t forget that while you work on your copy, their product is probably also advancing - by the time you&#x27;re finished, you will have more to do - plus your own improvements.
matt_the_bassalmost 7 years ago
Gitlab vs github?
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templar_musealmost 7 years ago
Whereas no one would openly admit to copying a product and naming that company publicly - it could be said that many products were birthed from different perceptions of a solution from a given problem space. Which, by virtue of convergent evolution though common customer requirements&#x2F;user stories and focus groups, along with a standardisation of UX practices, end up with a largely overlapping feature base.
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