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Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

57 pointsby callumlockealmost 7 years ago

14 comments

dagenixalmost 7 years ago
As a reminder to everyone: the constitutional guarantee to freedom of speech means that the _government_ cannot censor any views (outside of certain exceptions for threatening language, and the like). It does not mean that a private entity has to enable speech that they find objectionable.
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willio58almost 7 years ago
I think Apple is completely in the right here. They are enforcing a policy and if people don’t like that they don’t have to find podcasts through iTunes.<p>Luckily podcasts are designed to be decentralized, so even if Apple gets too trigger-happy with banning certain podcasts, that won’t affect anyone’s ability to still subscribe to those podcasts.
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yuvalr1almost 7 years ago
Although I&#x27;m happy seeing this kind of content removed, I&#x27;m really afraid of a future where private corporations have such a definitive influence of free speech. They set their own rules, and it&#x27;s dangerous.
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sparklingalmost 7 years ago
I agree with most of the comments here. Private entities such as Apple should be free to work with whomever they want on their platforms.<p>However, i feel if this was some left-leaning podcast, the same people supporting this removal would be outraged.
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randomname2almost 7 years ago
Interestingly this only happened after pressure from CNN, after they successfully got Facebook and Youtube to punish Infowars [1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.salon.com&#x2F;amp&#x2F;fox-news-tucker-carlson-runs-to-alex-jones-defense-cnn-is-trying-to-squelch-his-point-of-view" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.salon.com&#x2F;amp&#x2F;fox-news-tucker-carlson-runs-to-al...</a>
i_am_nomadalmost 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve never listened to it, and in fact I have no idea who that guy is or what he talks about, except that he&#x27;s supposedly a conspiracy theorist. For those of you who have, what made his show so objectionable (to Apple, anyway)?
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unixheroalmost 7 years ago
A slippery slope, but yeah, that rubbish had to go.
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orionblastaralmost 7 years ago
Here is a thread on Reddit that explains it more:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;technology&#x2F;comments&#x2F;94xu2n&#x2F;apple_is_removing_alex_jones_and_infowars&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;technology&#x2F;comments&#x2F;94xu2n&#x2F;apple_is...</a><p>He&#x27;s basically lying to sell products when he lied about Sandy Hook being fake the victim&#x27;s families got doxed by his crazed fans.<p>He also claimed the government was putting chemicals in the water that turns frogs gay, implying that the same chemicals turn people gay, etc.<p>This is really hurting people and it is getting out of control.<p>Apple cannot associate with this podcast for fear that they will be sued for listing it on their podcast lists.<p>For people not in the USA, Alex Jones is a chicken little conspiracy theorist claiming that the sky is falling but it is not. He claims we live on a prison planet that Nazi alien lizards that shapeshift control. Quite a bit crazy like him is also David Icke and others.
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skcalmost 7 years ago
Their platform, their rules.<p>Good on Apple I say.
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robd003almost 7 years ago
I wish Silicon Valley believed in free speech instead of being jackbooted thugs. Let the individual decide if they want to consume media or not. I&#x27;m getting sick and tired of the outrage mobs trying to censor everything they personally find objectionable.
karpodiemalmost 7 years ago
He should just put a .torrent up of the video after the show, have his followers upload it to YouTube, and have a form they can report the URL back so he can embed the video.<p>He won&#x27;t get ad revenue, but he&#x27;ll still get to his message out.
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peteretepalmost 7 years ago
Good for Apple. It&#x27;s terrifying that we need to rely on corporations rather than our elected representatives to make the right choices, though.
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neyaalmost 7 years ago
Probably be down-voted for this, but I find it funny, lots of people here support Apple. No matter how trash the podcast author was, I&#x27;d imagine there&#x27;d be an outrage if this were a move by Google.<p>I&#x27;m not a fan of either, but interesting to observe the polarized reactions depending on the corporate in question.
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justsomedude43almost 7 years ago
All the people here supporting Apple&#x27;s decision with an argument &quot;it&#x27;s a private company, their rules&quot; are the same people moaning when Apple, Google, Facebook or others do the same thing that affects them.
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