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Oracle to charge for Java from Jan 2019

51 pointsby Pyppealmost 7 years ago

16 comments

cwyersalmost 7 years ago
&gt; Oracle have announced that, “after January 2019”, Java SE 8 public updates will not be available for “business, commercial or production use” without a commercial license.<p>This is blogspam and FUD. Java SE 8 will be past EOL at that point. Oracle has announced no intent to charge for updates to Java SE 11, which should be the current release, at that point.
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sudhirjalmost 7 years ago
Isn&#x27;t this heavily misleading? This still seems like the charges for continuing to use old versions of Java &lt;= 8. The article doesn&#x27;t confirm or deny that staying on the latest version remains free.
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Nursiealmost 7 years ago
OK, but from what I can tell this isn&#x27;t a fee for using java in a commercial setting, it&#x27;s a fee for access to continued support&#x2F;patching of Java 8.<p>Java 9 is out. Java 10 is out. I can see why oracle might want to cut down their support costs and retire their older versions more quickly.<p>However this will blow up in their faces if a lot of software gets exploited due to unpatched vulnerabilities.
jarymalmost 7 years ago
I don’t see anything wrong with charging commercial users for support of an old product.<p>I’m no fan of Oracle of their sales practices but the title is very misleading by omission
BjoernKWalmost 7 years ago
That headline’s sensationalist and misleading. They’re going to charge for continued JDK 8 updates.<p>JDK (and JRE) 11 will be the latest version by then. Only companies which need or want to stay on the previous version will have to pay.
_Codemonkeyismalmost 7 years ago
Poor journalism.<p>1. It&#x27;s about EOL SE 8<p>2. &quot;software running Java SE 8&quot; - the article needs to be clear about Oracle Java, and Open JDK and others like Azul
yetihehealmost 7 years ago
Oracle will charge for support of Java 8, not for all Java versions.
ShardPhoenixalmost 7 years ago
Note: this applies to new updates to Java 8, as a result of the upcoming Java 11 taking over as the LTS version. Oracle is not charging for Java in general.<p>As a result the headline and article come across as a bit FUDdy to me.
dynjoalmost 7 years ago
Cached version <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:VvTCsb0dnUYJ:https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.itassetmanagement.net&#x2F;2018&#x2F;05&#x2F;01&#x2F;oracle-to-charge-for-java-from-jan-2019&#x2F;+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=th&amp;client=safari" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:VvTCsb...</a>
dvfjsdhgfvalmost 7 years ago
Even though the clickbait title is false, I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if Oracle at some point decided it makes sense to kill Java by &quot;monetizing&quot; current releases it in this way.
RickJWagneralmost 7 years ago
This changes things. For one, Red Hat is now offering OpenJDK support for Windows.
vpribishalmost 7 years ago
right from the weasel&#x27;s mouth: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;java.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;download&#x2F;release_notice.jsp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;java.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;download&#x2F;release_notice.jsp</a>
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bArrayalmost 7 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure what the big deal is, they are charging for older version support. Not only this, I&#x27;ve been using and would recommend people switch to openjdk.
DonHopkinsalmost 7 years ago
After all those years of endlessly arguing back and forth about which programming language is the best, the poor Java evangelists have had the blocks knocked out from underneath them, because now you can instantly counter any number of technical pro-Java arguments and win the argument in one word, by simply be saying the name &quot;Oracle&quot;, and sadly shaking your head in pity.
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singularity2001almost 7 years ago
blogspam &#x2F; FUD or not, Kotlin is the beautiful future
dmixalmost 7 years ago
What is a &quot;named user plus&quot;?