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Launch HN: MAC'D (YC S18) – Fast-Casual, Build-Your-own Mac and Cheese

51 pointsby antonybelloalmost 7 years ago
Hi HN!<p>We’re Chen-Chen and Antony from MAC’D, a fast-casual, build-your-own mac &amp; cheese restaurant. Pick one of our six cheese sauces, a pasta base, add unlimited toppings like roasted broccoli and mushrooms, and top it off with anything from truffle oil to hot cheetos. We’re currently in San Francisco and Portland.<p>MAC’D was inspired by a mac &amp; cheese restaurant called Homeroom, which Chen-Chen frequented while at Cal. Fast-casual has consistently been the fastest growing segment in the food and bev industry, so it made sense to apply that spin to an old-school comfort food like mac &amp; cheese. It’s a social, nostalgic, late-night meal that’s both familiar in taste and unique in experience.<p>After graduating from Berkeley, Chen-Chen was a management consultant, but quickly realized that consulting wasn’t the career for him. Together with a part-time partner, he began drafting up ideas for a restaurant concept. The one that struck a chord was mac &amp; cheese. After confirming high demand through several pop-ups in early 2017, Chen-Chen and his partner opened MAC’D’s first brick &amp; mortar in SF’s Marina District. About 6 months in, Chen-Chen’s partner made a decision to pursue business school, and Chen-Chen ran the restaurant solo until opening up a second location. Antony was a friend of Chen-Chen’s and had been following MAC’D’s progress while a software engineer at AWS. He worked in restaurants throughout his life and after a brief stint as a chef in Milan, knew he wanted a career in the food industry. Chen-Chen had been pretty spread thin running two locations with eyes on a third, and good timing on both ends led to our partnership.<p>In a little over a year, we’ve successfully bootstrapped two locations in SF and have served over 75,000 meals. We’re profitable and have a validated concept in a city with among the highest costs in the US. We want to continue to grow and expand to other cities.<p>In Portland, we’re using low capital commissary kitchens to explore new food markets through catering and delivery. Commissaries give a low managerial overhead and remove front of house staffing &#x2F; building costs. It’s a way of getting into new markets quickly and intelligently, with the goal of proving a market and getting our name out before investing in brick &amp; mortar spaces.<p>We’ve identified roughly thirty cities across the US as potential locations for MAC’D. Our customers range from families looking for a predictable meal to more boisterous late night crowds. Our target markets are college towns, cities in the south and midwest, and ones with progressive food scenes, both in and outside the United States. We’re also ramping up on catering, so if you’re in SF and Portland, reach out! Our catering form is on www.getmacd.com. We’re also on instagram @getmacd.

22 comments

ryanworlalmost 7 years ago
Hi Chen-Chen and Antony,<p>Why did you choose to join YC with a restaurant business?<p>Is there a technology differentiator in your business?<p>I have a lot of experience in the on-demand food space and your method of using commissary kitchens is very smart and will allow you to access tens of thousands of customers without an expensive build out.<p>I would guess net (after paying the delivery platforms for distribution) you&#x27;re saving about 10% once a kitchen is operating at a reasonable scale.<p>Is that a model you&#x27;re looking to expand into other concepts? My understanding is the entrepreneurs going the commissary route are operating multiple &quot;restaurants&quot; simultaneously out of a space since there isn&#x27;t any reason not to.
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nowarninglabelalmost 7 years ago
Is there anything to learn from the experience of &quot;The Melt&quot;? It seemed they started with a grilled cheese focus, didn&#x27;t do so well, and pivoted to burgers. Now they seem to be doing well (however this is only through observation, I have no idea of their finances). It would seem Mac &amp; Cheese would find a similar issue of being too narrow &#x2F; too niche. Granted, if you don&#x27;t intend to have in-person location ordering be a big piece of the business, then maybe that is irrelevant.
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samplalmost 7 years ago
I’m assuming a giant bowl of pasta and cheese is incredibly unhealthy, even with some brocolli sprinkled on top.<p>Do you have any moral concerns with this company? We’re a massively obese nation...
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staplersalmost 7 years ago
Was checking out the website and thought how it would be nice to check this place out but all these tech startups are in SV. And then scrolled down and saw you guys have a location like half a mile from my house in Portland!<p>Definitely checking it out soon!
physcabalmost 7 years ago
We used to get Homeroom catered to our company so I&#x27;m pretty familiar.<p>Its pretty delicious but also really heavy. I noticed that it was difficult finding something that I&#x27;d want to eat on a recurring basis, and that must have been uniform because we stopped getting catering from them after 6 months or so.<p>I&#x27;m curious to know if you&#x27;ve seen recurring business from customers or just getting new business because its a new concept and people love mac and cheese and want to try.<p>While there are trends in fast casual, I&#x27;d say there are also trends in healthier eating. Have you thought about how to provide healthier &#x2F; lighter options to encourage more habitual ordering from existing customers?<p>Also another idea is food trucks as mobile storefront. A pizza truck a block away from me bought access to an unused parking lot, and while they do provide walk-ups, the majority of orders are fulfilled by delivery companies. Since they are located in a parking lot on a busy street, I will often see 4-5 Uber &#x2F; Postmates &#x2F; Eat24 cars lined up waiting for their quick-fire pizzas.
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samstavealmost 7 years ago
While I love Mac n cheese, and your menu sounds delicious - I&#x27;ll tell you why I will most likely never eat at your place: price.<p>While there are plenty of people who will, and you will certainly be successful - I just have &quot;price fatigue&quot; where one can&#x27;t seemingly even feed themselves for an affordable rate.<p>The cost of food is too high.<p>Let&#x27;s assume the average cost of a meal from your place is $15 as is generally what appears to be the average cost of a meal anywhere, eating anywhere is just so expensive.<p>Even a &quot;meal&quot; from McDonald&#x27;s in a really crappy location such as 24th and mission in SF is $11.<p>I&#x27;m sure people will always pay for the convenience, I just can&#x27;t justify paying premium prices like $15 for Mac n cheese.<p>I have three kids.<p>Now imagine a family where each in the family can&#x27;t be together for, say, lunch.<p>Each parent needs to eat, and each child needs to eat.<p>If all members of the family were to go out and need to buy lunch - even if it were $10 per lunch and the family had to buy 4 lunches twice a week....<p>So, I just think pricing for food these days, across the board, is unsustainable.
sebleonalmost 7 years ago
First off, kudos on launching multiple successful restaurants in a tough city like SF!<p>&gt; Our technology differentiation is taking advantage of the growth<p>What does this actually mean? Reading between the lines, sounds like you&#x27;re going for a standard cloud kitchen model. Besides nicer packaging for delivery, seems like you&#x27;ll be operating a regular kitchen that does take out. Some platforms like Uber supply restaurants with analytics and data for optimize the menu, I&#x27;m curious what you guys planned on doing in-house that was tech heavy.<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong - having a high-growth, low-tech company is amazing - but I&#x27;m sensing that the tech-side of this business is overstated by your comment.
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AmirGilboaalmost 7 years ago
I only read: build you own Mac. and i&#x27;m all ready for, my screwdriver in hand :)
dhashalmost 7 years ago
Please make one next to MIT - the fast casual food situation sucks now due to the construction. There&#x27;s one food truck, a chipotle, and a clover and maybe a greek place within a reasonable distance from the campus.
bob_theslob646almost 7 years ago
Will the prices of your product be flat across the nation or will that be dependent on location?<p>Curious to see how hard it is to manage quality of food across the states.<p>Interesting concept, best of luck!
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HelloNursealmost 7 years ago
A fascinating exposure to alien food.<p>Where does this idea of &quot;mac and cheese&quot; as a specialty come from? Who&#x27;s going to find this stuff &quot;nostalgic&quot; and &quot;familiar in taste&quot;? Wouldn&#x27;t your restaurant be equally &quot;fast-casual&quot; and more interesting and high quality with a traditional curated menu of good pasta recipes instead of build-your-own cheese and &quot;anything&quot;?
ngokevinalmost 7 years ago
Love Mac and Cheese, was excited to hear about it a while back. Went to MAC&#x27;D in the Marina with family. Pretty good! Though heavy for us and not as much meat. Perhaps we&#x27;ll get ourselves <i></i>MAC&#x27;D<i></i> again every now and then. Made for great day-after leftovers. Perfect for some midnight munchies. I&#x27;m also originally from Portland, maybe I&#x27;ll grab some next time I visit!
crsvalmost 7 years ago
How do you guys plan to strategically and operationally adjust as you expand in to markets that far removed from economics and social drivers of SF?
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Frye9876almost 7 years ago
I love Mac and cheese and this concept so was excited when noodles and co came to Orlando but it quickly shut down. I hope you guys have better luck and make it to the east coast!
latjalmost 7 years ago
Is it possible to &quot;double down&quot; where I can pay double and get double the mac n&#x27; cheese?<p>Do you offer an option to lobsterate my mac n&#x27; cheese?
conorclearyalmost 7 years ago
If&#x2F;when you expand into Canada, can I start the pilot franchise in Ottawa called KRAFT DINER?
thex10almost 7 years ago
You mention cities in the south. Are you going to adjust the recipe to southern taste?
kylecwaldenalmost 7 years ago
I’ve dined here. It’s great!
ejcxalmost 7 years ago
I live near your new place on Polk. Love it. Keep it up!
hotpotjunkiealmost 7 years ago
Is this a joke?
crispinbalmost 7 years ago
Good grief.
wblalmost 7 years ago
I wanted a flying car and all I got was a pasta bar chain.