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A man who was raised by wolves

108 pointsby johnny313over 6 years ago

7 comments

anigbrowlover 6 years ago
<i>Janer says the young boy would have projected his social needs on to the animals and imagined relationships with them. “When Pantoja says the fox laughed at him, or that he had to tell off the snake, he gives us a version of the true reality, what he believes happened – or how, at least, he explained the reality to himself,” Janer told me. “Marcos’s mind was desperate for social acceptance,” he told me, “so instead of understanding the animals’ presence as incentivised by the food, he thought they were trying to make friends.”</i><p>I continue to be perplexed as to why otherwise intelligent people deny the possibility of personality and social relations among other species, or that of interspecies communication. Then again this is just the mildest example in this story of people&#x27;s capacity for being awful.
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lqetover 6 years ago
I would definitely not say &quot;raised&quot;. He lived, and interacted with, humans until he was 7, which is around the age you enter school. At 7, I suspect the average human is far more intellectually advanced than the average grown wolf, so I very much doubt that there was much &quot;raising&quot; going on.
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entropieover 6 years ago
As interesting everhing of this is; I actually doubt that is the absolute truth as long there is no evidence.
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pvaldesover 6 years ago
And now the wolf is extinct in Sierra Morena, ruthlessly killed by the hunting lobby in the last decades. It makes you think.
swaggyBoatswainover 6 years ago
I think it&#x27;s interesting to understand how feral children&#x2F;adults adapt into society, as this gives a glimpse of what people are actually capable of learning in extreme niche cases.<p>I had done a fair bit of research on this topic in the past, out of sheer curiosity. Mostly to see determine what animalistic instincts are retained, if any at all, and how well someone can acclimate learning a language like English in different age brackets. Also to determine what the fine line between what human&#x2F;animal instincts &#x2F;intuition actually were. As you get older, it becomes much more difficult to learn new things, due to new stigmas associated with things you had learned previously. You have to unlearn just as much as you have to learn <i>(e.g. smarter everyday, riding bike backwards)</i>. I would watch videos on this topic, gauging effectiveness of speech information rate VS years of learning based on how long someone has lived in animalistic captivity.<p>I compared this with people who had been born without vision or sight growing up, or if it was lost later in life. Whether learning to speak without ever hearing a word spoken was possible. Extreme examples would be things like Helen Keller, amongst others. Using niche cases like these is one of the best ways to validate a theory, as there are less unknowns and its in a more controlled environment. Its qualitative research over quantitative<p>On the other end of the spectrum, I would research things on child prodigies. People who were austic savants and prodigies in music, or were off the scale in what was considered average.<p>On another spectrum would be prisoners of war, during WWII and the effects of solitary confinement &#x2F; deprived senses for extended periods of time and its effect on human psychology. I wanted to compare the effects of PTSD studies and how this compares to feral humans &#x2F; PTSD research here.<p>------------------------------------------------------------------<p>The research was mostly just my obsession over optimization of learning patterns &amp; discovery of learning antipatterns. I wanted to validate what was truly effective and what was not, based on actual research with extreme examples, and narrowing it to down what I personally found works for me, and basing it on different personality traits found in myer-briggs&#x2F;disc&#x2F;etc.<p>I don&#x27;t even remember all the impliciations of this research I did. I would read psychology papers&#x2F;books on these topics and compare it with things in DSM. Learn about linguistics, etc. Spent 2 months interested on this given topic. I narrowed it down to 2 distinctive methods of thinking, with potential subsystems inside of those. The first being fast, e.g. recognizing someone you&#x27;ve seen before, simulated mostly by sensory information. The latter being triggered as a result, based on &quot;slower&quot; iterative thought processes.<p>And I would test to see the limitations of expanding the &quot;slower&quot; approach by seeing how much information I could cram in short term, e.g. how many words could I memorize short term with a memory palace. It was only like 10 words&#x2F;locations at best, for one given type of application. Meaning I could remember at most, 10 todolists for a given day if I really made an attempt, but it became extremely difficult to do.<p>With this system of (faster) thinking, I was curious how someone who lacks one sensory resource (sight) and is able to compensate elsewhere (sound). People who are blind generally process audio information at a much higher rate, if you ever watch a programmers NVDA speech program the number of words it spits out is incomprensible to most people to understand.<p>------------------------------------------------------------------<p>I would conduct studies on myself, seeing if I could apply these same principles, in speedwatching youtube videos with captions, podcasts, audiobooks, etc. I would be obsessed with learning about speedreading, shorthand notetaking, incremental reading, among other things. I ran tests on myself to see if I would watch 2 videos at the same time, one with captions at 2x speed, the other at normal playback rate with audio, and see if I could comprehend both well enough.<p>I have always been interested on how people like Tom Scott are able to do a 5 minute video shot in one take, without ever reading a script. Or how book writers like stephen king or brandon sanderson are able to generate these unique works of worldbuilding art, in book format. I would also learn things like memory palaces&#x2F;competitions, chess champions, speed math competitions, and space repetition learning.<p>I&#x27;m starting to read a book called &quot;Thinking fast and slow&quot;. It describes everything that I had tried to formulate in words.
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qubaxover 6 years ago
What clickbait nonsense. Do people really believe this? Are people this naive?<p>He was raised by humans at least to the age of 7. Then he was &quot;abandoned&quot; and he lived by &quot;himself&quot; in heavily populated spain? A few miles from cordoba, madrid and other spanish cities? He wasn&#x27;t raised by wolves. He lived near wolves. Using this logic, everyone in spain was &quot;raised by wolves&quot;.<p>Aren&#x27;t journalists supposed to be skeptical? Aren&#x27;t extraordinary claims supposed to demand extraordinary evidence?<p>This article is on par with history channel&#x27;s aliens built pyramids.<p>I walked through central park when I was younger. I guess that means I was raised by squirrels.
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fiftyacornover 6 years ago
Was hoping it was Eddie Izzard - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=oKF_H_9AnAY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=oKF_H_9AnAY</a>