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Fravia’s web-searching lore (2009)

112 pointsby jtaftover 6 years ago

16 comments

jasimover 6 years ago
Searchlores at the time was a disappointing pivot from Fravia's pages of reverse engineering. Searchlores was all about advanced search techniques and finding the unfindable; reverse engineering was about decoding binaries and knowing the unknowable. Little did I then realize that Fravia had the foresight to see what the internet will become, and that instead of stepping through binaries in SoftICE in search of understanding, we'll be drowned in open-source code that'll never be read.
userbinatorover 6 years ago
Some background on the author: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fravia" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fravia</a><p>Very interesting guy. It was an odd coincidence to see the quality of Google&#x27;s search results drop drastically shortly after his death... and now if you try some of the &quot;advanced techniques&quot; that he describes, Google is likely to block you for looking like a bot.
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e_modadover 6 years ago
I remember being 12 years old and obsessively reading through fravia&#x27;s pages into the morning in the mid-90&#x27;s. On a whim, I e-mailed +orc. He responded so kindly that it had a significant effect on my interests and attitudes. I&#x27;ll always remember that time fondly. It&#x27;s too bad fravia passed. His legacy lives on in those he influenced.
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jlg23over 6 years ago
To put his work in context: He taught people how to identify a Russian medal (IIRC, it was 20 years ago..) before image search or tabbed browsers were a thing. Even if there had been image search, most people would not have had the bandwidth to go through a few hundred image results visually...
nuclxover 6 years ago
Good old Fravia - I didn&#x27;t know he is already no longer with us. May he rest in peace. His writings were inspiring in the late 90&#x27;s. He sparked curiosity for a deeper understanding of how computers work, from the bottom up. His resources were accessible, non-academic, creative reflections on computing and information technology. Knowledge is power and he taught us young nerds how to gain access to it.
yosefzeevover 6 years ago
This brings back memories. Fravia was ahead of his time.
lshover 6 years ago
Fravia! I thought he was gone for good. He got me into Opera which remained my browser of choice for 15 years? more?? I used to print his webpages off into plastic sleeves inside huge A4 binders and read them at school. Him and RMS definitely helped raise the bar about how the world could and should be at an impressionable age.
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rboydover 6 years ago
If I remember correctly he has a daughter? It would be interesting to get an interview from her. Fravia was a big inspiration as a teenager.
svilen_dobrevover 6 years ago
yeah... have forgotten some of these things. data reverse engineering? who remembers that.. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.lores.eu&#x2F;realicra&#x2F;finn_de1.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.lores.eu&#x2F;realicra&#x2F;finn_de1.htm</a> <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.lores.eu&#x2F;bg_weird.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.lores.eu&#x2F;bg_weird.htm</a> <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.lores.eu&#x2F;angewalk.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.lores.eu&#x2F;angewalk.htm</a><p>another mirror of the software side, still alive, is here: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.woodmann.com&#x2F;fravia&#x2F;papers.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.woodmann.com&#x2F;fravia&#x2F;papers.htm</a>
pfarnsworthover 6 years ago
The +orc posts were the best reverse engineering posts at the time, I never understood what happened with it.
bsaulover 6 years ago
I just had a look at +orc wikipedia page, and it says his identity isn’t known. Yet i’m pretty sure i’ve read a post on HN or a comment, a long time ago, implying otherwise... anyone knows more ?
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dangover 6 years ago
Discussed in 2016: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13291494" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13291494</a>
yreadover 6 years ago
I miss him. Anyone got a list of the &quot;hidden&quot; pages on searchlores?
yaspover 6 years ago
Wish I could vote this up more than just once.
bordercasesover 6 years ago
Are there any modern takes on the objectives that Fravia was trying to achieve?
yesenadamover 6 years ago
I hadn&#x27;t heard of him before, just starting to check out his essays. Great stuff!<p>Only gee, what an irritating and unfriendly style, throwing in a phrase in Latin in every other sentence, or even entire section titles—as if all his readers will understand it? or not caring?—just makes it really bad prose, there&#x27;s no way to get around that. And &quot;the unwashed&quot;?!<p>edit: &quot;He&#x27;ll be honing onto his target&quot;, &quot;being a tag paranoid is probably a good idea&quot;, &quot;You&#x27;r&quot;...ah ok, the English is bad too. That was surprising, from someone posing as a master of language.
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