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New Google Pixel 3, Pixel Slate, and Home Hub

322 pointsby alanfranzover 6 years ago

73 comments

seanalltogetherover 6 years ago
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I see all these Android phones with notches on the top, but no screen going all the way to the bottom. Apple explained they wanted an edge to edge screen, and that the notch was a compromise to achieve that goal. Now all the android devices are copying the compromise without trying to copy the goal.
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simonsarrisover 6 years ago
Pixel 3: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_3</a><p>Pixel Stand: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_stand" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_stand</a><p>Pixel Slate: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_slate" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_slate</a><p>Home Hub: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;google_home_hub" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;google_home_hub</a><p>It is so weird these days that 95% of the marketing and copy for new hardware is actually marketing and copy about software, not the hardware. They do however have a spec compare page for the phones: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_compare" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_compare</a>
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nmeofthestateover 6 years ago
I really wish Google would sell a good value (Nexus level prices) phone again, so I can own a phone with stock Android. You can get good hardware for half the price of Google&#x27;s pixel phones; the downside is the crappy Android versions on them.<p>(thanks for the suggestions on close-to-stock-Android hardware)
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satysinover 6 years ago
What a terrible live event. The presenters were awful. Okay not everyone is a natural presenter so if you don&#x27;t have such people in your product management team just hire some!<p>As for the products. Groan. What is there to be excited about exactly? The new tablet (slate?) goes up to $1600(!) and doesn&#x27;t even include a keyboard (an extra $200 for that). The videos of it seem to show it as a laggy mess as well. Hopefully it isn&#x27;t like that on release.<p>The Home Hub does not interest me. At all. At least it doesn&#x27;t have a camera though.<p>But the real let down is the new Pixel 3 is just so meh. A bizarrely large notch yet a large chin still? Two front facing cameras but still a single rear. Why? Are super selfie takes the biggest buyers for Pixel phones? I take a few selfies now and then but I would much rather a second 2x camera for proper zoom and not some fancy digital zoom powered by AI from my hand tremors.<p>I can&#x27;t see any reason to replace my Pixel 2 XL if I am honest, especially at those prices.<p>Also what happened to the whole &quot;you think you know&quot; social media trolling Google was doing? Turns out yes we did know. Literally everything leaked. So bizarre.
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nickdandakisover 6 years ago
Okay, so. Have we reached diminishing returns with smartphones? Because it really feels that way.<p>I&#x27;m sure this new Pixel is better than the previous one, but we&#x27;re starting to have conversations around _not_ buying the $1k phone for its camera, and instead buying two devices for $500 each that are better.<p>I personally feel like even four iPhone generations ago, the iPhone was &quot;good enough&quot; and that the software is really what needs to be improved.
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Donaldover 6 years ago
I like how if you go to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_3_how_to_buy" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_3_how_to_buy</a> and click on any of the company names under &quot;Find your phone. Get up to $300 back&quot; you will be redirected to Google&#x27;s internal corporate SSO page:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;DkmG4uL" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;DkmG4uL</a>
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owaisloneover 6 years ago
I was hoping they&#x27;d release the next Pixelbook. Really wanted to try that as my next developer laptop. May be next year.<p>Pixel Slate is great but I can&#x27;t hold it on my lap while sitting, lying on a couch or my bed. Given I spend all my working hours using my laptop, devices like Pixel Slate and Surface Pro are a no-go.<p>Only if they built a stronger keyboard with a adjustable latch that could hold the tablet body. I wouldn&#x27;t mind the extra weight if it meant that it wouldn&#x27;t need support and could be held just like a laptop in any position.
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natvertover 6 years ago
After bad experiences with hardware reliably and support on the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6p, I will not be buying another piece of Google hardware.<p>Although, I must say, the vanilla Android software experience is top notch. I&#x27;d just rather install &#x2F; customize it on more reliable hardware with better support (my op5t has been amazing!)
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dstaleyover 6 years ago
I just realized that the $549 Surface Go comes with a Pentium Gold (more powerful than the Celeron), double the storage, and double the RAM for $50 cheaper than the base model Pixel Slate ($250 cheaper if you include the keyboards). Furthermore, a Surface Pro with a Core i5, 8GB of RAM, and 128GB of storage is $100 cheaper than the equivalent Pixel Slate, and $170 cheaper once you factor in the costs of the keyboards.
noncomlover 6 years ago
&gt; Google Photos gives you free, unlimited online storage for all your original quality photos and 4K videos.<p>So what will happen to your photos when Google decides to &quot;sunset&quot; Google Photos?<p>Also, what happens to your phone&#x2F;contacts&#x2F;purchases when Google (AI?) decides you have violated YouTube T&amp;C and locks your account?<p>Edit: Finally, are your phone data used for improving the targeted ads?
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_hardwaregeekover 6 years ago
Uhh, is it just me or did Google just take Apple&#x27;s tablet and phone lines and do straight up copies of both? Because the Pixel 3 looks awfully like the iPhone X and the Pixel Slate has some similarity to the iPad Pro. I know companies copy each other, but this is quite literally notch for notch.
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ghaffover 6 years ago
My big question about the Slate is its ergonomics (with keyboard) relative to a regular laptop&#x2F;Chromebook. It looks to be somewhat better (&quot;snaps in place&quot;) and the keyboard is approximately &quot;normal.&quot; But there&#x27;s still something folded behind the tablet&#x2F;screen in the photo.<p>My issue with all these combo devices is that they&#x27;re not as good for using a laptop in all sorts of random locations and positions--which pretty much describes how I use them at events and otherwise traveling. Some are better than others but I&#x27;ve yet to have anyone tell me that they&#x27;re just as good as a laptop for using on your lap--which is sort a dealbreaker for me.<p>As I understand it, Google was also rumored to be announcing a more conventional PixelBook upgrade at this event but that didn&#x27;t happen.
therealmarvover 6 years ago
How good can you develop, let&#x27;s say something easy, for example some python + Postgres + node.js on a Chromebook like the Pixel Slate without rooting or removing ChromeOS?
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jenkstomover 6 years ago
Would love to know when I can get the Pixel 3 from sombebody besides Verizon or Google. Google keeps shipping us empty boxes and has shut down our network guy&#x27;s personal account. We even had the fedex guy witness opening the third empty box. Fedex says it&#x27;s Google&#x27;s fault, Google says we&#x27;re stealing phones.<p>So, we can&#x27;t get it until they start selling from anybody besides Google or Verizon. Sounds like that will be November first.
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epicureanidealover 6 years ago
I was underwhelmed with the specs. Only 128gb storage? Processor improved, and I guess image processing software improved... maybe that&#x27;s all that should be expected after 1 year? But the iPhone seems like a huge contrast... 512gb storage available? Both of them offer cloud storage, but the 512gb option is amazing to have on the device.
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appleiigsover 6 years ago
What&#x27;s with the notch? I don&#x27;t follow smartphones very closely, is a notch something we want and is worth copying Apple?
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matchbokover 6 years ago
Not sure how these are better than buying a 2-year old iPhone (which has better support, better UX, and better resale value)
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post_breakover 6 years ago
I loved how they kept harping on how the tablet didn&#x27;t run a phone OS. Yet for the price of what they are asking you can get a surface that doesn&#x27;t run a browser OS. That tablet is dead on arrival with those prices. Even microsoft charges less for the keyboard for the surface. It&#x27;s not a cheap Nexus 7 tablet, Amazon took that market share, it&#x27;s not a competitor to the iPad, and it&#x27;s not a Surface competitor.
skhover 6 years ago
How can they write a blog post about new products with no links to actually buy said product? I see this a lot with corporate blogs. Why don’t they link to the corporate homepage or to the store where I can buy the product?
wnevetsover 6 years ago
No headphone jack, I&#x27;ll be sticking with the original pixel for a while longer
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matchbokover 6 years ago
Wonder when Google will abandon this tablet like the 6 previous ones? 6 months? 12?
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jasonkesterover 6 years ago
This image from the product page made me laugh:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&#x2F;DzUW6cuCUFirvQPz9" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&#x2F;DzUW6cuCUFirvQPz9</a><p>Trying to stay ahead of the current trend toward larger phones.
niuzetaover 6 years ago
Lack of headphone jack will drive me to Samsung in the next iteration. As a long-time Google phone fan(Nexus series and now a Pixel XL) this is a saddening trend.
safgasCVSover 6 years ago
Product page is a mess - why no simple 1 page per item that shows whats new rather multiple articles spread out over different links? I had to go to theverge to understand what was launched
dbcooperover 6 years ago
The $599 Slate model has an Intel Celeron SoC. :( You need to spend $799 for m3 SoC base model.
prolikewh0aover 6 years ago
Snapdragon 845 with 4GB of RAM? This is essentially a Pixel 2 XL with a notch. 4GB of ram is going to be atrocious right out of the box, and good luck in a year or two.
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blisterpeanutsover 6 years ago
No headphone jack. No memory expansion slot. No removable battery. Made in China. $800 for the cheapest model (64G 5.5&quot;). If I weren&#x27;t trying to move away from Google right now, I&#x27;d be interested. But this is not priced to be an impulse purchase.<p>Its specs are approximately equivalent to the Samsung S8 -- similar screen (5.5&quot; vs Samsung 5.8&quot;), same IP68 water resistance, edge, Bluetooth 5. But there the similarities end.<p>S8 and S8+ and later models still have memory expansion. I have a 128gb card in my 64gb S8+, for example, for a total of 172gb. S8, S8+, and the S9 series also have retained a headphone jack. I seem to recall Google making fun of Apple for eliminating theirs, and now they have followed suit.<p>In my opinion, Google should just designate a best of breed phone, e.g. the Samsung, as its flagship Android, and stop trying to market a &quot;pure Android experience&quot;. They&#x27;ve never been very successful with hardware -- maybe the Chromecast was a hit, but their Nexus phones (of which I bought four) have been mediocre.
tonyztanover 6 years ago
&gt; &quot;We’ve integrated Titan™ Security, the system we built for Google, into our new mobile devices. Titan™ Security protects your most sensitive on-device data by securing your lock screen and strengthening disk encryption.&quot;<p>Anyone have more information about this new security chip in the Pixel 3? Is this any different from secure boot and the security chip from the Pixel 2?
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cardamomoover 6 years ago
Found an intriguing tidbit when reading about the Pixel Slate&#x27;s version of Chrome OS:<p>&gt; You can even run Linux if you’re a developer.<p>I wonder what exactly this means. What distro? How locked-down will my device be under this distro? Does this mean we now have a real, live Linux tablet?
LosMykeover 6 years ago
Display for the slate looks fantastic, the idea seams right, but I just don&#x27;t see a legitimate reason to drop another $1K to upgrade from my Pixelbook.<p>The Pixelbook at least has a keyboard, works great on the lap (hence the name LAPtop), does pretty much the same as the Slate.
gandutravelerover 6 years ago
Kinda disappointed. I have Pixel XL and was hoping to upgrade this year. But this phone doesn&#x27;t look like an upgrade except for few minor software enhancements. Maybe I&#x27;ll switch to iPhone for next 2 years.<p>Any pixel owners planning to get Pixel 3 ?
tracker1over 6 years ago
Have you considered inviting Satan into your life?<p>&#x2F;snark<p>The removal of the headphone jack is just stupid, and annoying. The fact that I&#x27;ve had no shortage of issues with my car and bluetooth since Oreo (except for 2 months of late betas for P that worked, only to have it break again after the public release). Screwing up hangouts, which was once such a great messaging app everywhere I needed, and voice integration worked great.<p>Broken and inconsistent &quot;groups&quot; management. Just plain unfinished web interfaces all around. It reminds me of Windows 8... mostly shiny, but some truly ugly areas with it. Not to mention AMP and so many other things they&#x27;ve done that don&#x27;t really make anything better.
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RivieraKidover 6 years ago
Wtf, they couldn&#x27;t even make the top and bottom borders have equal height in a $800 phone (the smaller Pixel)? Who&#x27;s in charge of hardware design at Google, Apple would <i>never</i> release this.
fermienricoover 6 years ago
I am surprised no one is talking about privacy. In my view, buying a phone from an advertising company is insane. Think about your phone - everything about your life is in this one device.<p>I don&#x27;t care if Pixel 3 was twice the performance and features than iPhone. Fundamentally, I have a problem with this device and it has little do with petty details such as megapixels and build quality.<p>Google is not interested in selling you hardware without &quot;free&quot; Google services built in. If they were, they would be a hardware company, not an advertisement company.
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sorenjanover 6 years ago
Does anyone know which algorithm they use for super resolution in the camera app? I know they&#x27;re using RAISR [0] for zoom in the previous version, seems like they have a new method now with multi image super resolution.<p>I doubt it&#x27;s anywhere near as good as a second camera with a different lens, so I don&#x27;t understand why they won&#x27;t include a second camera in the back like every other modern phone.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1606.01299" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1606.01299</a>
tengbretsonover 6 years ago
Between the giant top bar and the &quot;related articles&quot; segment that opens on its own theres almost no readable vertical space left on this blog. What kind of amateur company designed this?
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sequoiaover 6 years ago
&gt; soft circles and curves evoke something natural &amp; familiar<p>&gt; the products we create become so natural in your life that you don&#x27;t think about them as technology anymore<p><i>This is bad!</i> People <i>should</i> think of their technology and the implications it has on their lives. Encouraging people to sleepwalk even further into 24&#x2F;7 surveillance fails the &quot;don&#x27;t be evil&quot; test in my opinion.<p>Call me a cynic but damn if this doesn&#x27;t stuff doesn&#x27;t sound creepy coming from a company whose business model is based on surveillance.
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trasplerover 6 years ago
I thought some of the feature presentations were very strange. They focused way too much on &quot;how not to do it&quot; instead of the &quot;here&#x27;s how Pixel solves this&quot;. For example the wide angle lens got a video which was 90% &quot;Here&#x27;s a bad example and another one,...&quot; and then a 3s example of how it works&#x2F;looks with the wide angle and that was pretty much it.
justfor1commentover 6 years ago
Wow! This is a top notch phone
013aover 6 years ago
This is a very dramatic opinion, but its one I&#x27;ve been thinking about for a while.<p>What is Google&#x27;s five year plan with their hardware ecosystem? The only thing I can come up with is &quot;continue gathering data to build experiences which enable them to sell ads and continue to gather more data&quot;, which feels reductive and has almost nothing to do with hardware.<p>The Pixel has always, in a broader market sense, been a bit of a non-starter. Its a fine device, don&#x27;t get me wrong, but they sold 3.7M in 2017 [1]. Compare that to ~220M iPhones [2] or ~30M Samsung devices [2]. Its not even close. No one looks at LG&#x27;s phone business and thinks its healthy, but that&#x27;s the magnitude of sales we&#x27;re talking about.<p>And their disastrous attempts at &quot;premium&quot; ChromeOS hardware. The Pixelbook was the most hilariously horrible device Google has ever made (wait... maybe that should go to the Pixel C?). The Slate looks a lot better, but where&#x27;s the value compared to the cheaper Surface Pro 6 or iPad Pro? ChromeOS is an amazing platform for your grandma, but that doesn&#x27;t sell units. And how does ChromeOS further Google&#x27;s broader ecosystem goals? I use G-Suite personally and I feel no draw to buy one of these things, and I should be their target market.<p>If they&#x27;re trying to take back more control of the Android market, they&#x27;re failing. So, they&#x27;ve got the web. The &quot;open web&quot; isn&#x27;t even a strategic moat for them; its the minimum price for them to exist. And geeze, even then, Apple is <i>destroying</i> them by forcing Safari on iOS.<p>This is way out in left field, but I think what Google needs to do is work on a WebASM-native processor architecture and design. Fuchsia and Flutter isn&#x27;t enough alone, because they&#x27;re still going to rely on companies like Samsung or Huawei to distribute the hardware, which is tenuous; these companies might see Fuchsia as an opportunity to take even more control of Android.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;2&#x2F;13&#x2F;17007104&#x2F;google-pixel-total-sales-idc-statistics" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;2&#x2F;13&#x2F;17007104&#x2F;google-pixel-tot...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bgr.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;12&#x2F;29&#x2F;iphone-vs-samsung-most-popular-tech-products-of-2017&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bgr.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;12&#x2F;29&#x2F;iphone-vs-samsung-most-popular-te...</a>
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kraig911over 6 years ago
Mobile tech has jumped the shark I think. Literally just a snorefest of a year to me when it comes to new devices.
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crehnover 6 years ago
Why does nearly everything that Google makes look like it was designed by an engineer? They have top-notch engineering talent, but seem completely clueless when it comes to designing slick and beautiful experiences. There&#x27;s a very thin line between cool and cringy.
utopcellover 6 years ago
Well, this was anticlimactic. Instead of a bezel-free pixelbook, we got a pointless notch-full phone.
oh-kumudoover 6 years ago
Consider how bad Pixel&#x27;s quality control is, I won&#x27;t buy a Pixel 3 at least in a year.
practice9over 6 years ago
For those who are dissapointed in Pixel&#x27;s notch - look out for OnePlus 6T. Much more better &quot;waterdrop&quot; implementation which minimizes notch area. There is a rumour they&#x27;re partnering with T-Mobile for this release
bdzover 6 years ago
Save your money and buy a Pocophone F1 for $300<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gsmarena.com&#x2F;compare.php3?idPhone1=9256&amp;idPhone2=9293" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gsmarena.com&#x2F;compare.php3?idPhone1=9256&amp;idPhone2...</a>
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michaelmiorover 6 years ago
Happy I didn&#x27;t pull the trigger on the Lenovo Smart Display. Home Hub looks pretty nice and although the screen is smaller than both of the Lenovo models, I think the price difference makes up for it.
davidwover 6 years ago
&quot;AI in Pixel 3 enables new features that make your day-to-day actions simpler and easier.&quot;<p>I wonder if they&#x27;ll go so far as to make it recognize my Italian wife&#x27;s name when I pronounce it in Italian.
PhasmaFelisover 6 years ago
Where&#x27;s the best place to get a new&#x2F;refurb Pixel 1 cheap? It&#x27;s the last Google phone I&#x27;d want to own, and I&#x27;m guessing the price will drop even further now that the 3 is out.
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SippinLeanover 6 years ago
So the phone costs $1000 plus another $129 for AppleCare?<p>Bring back the Nexus line :(
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rplst8over 6 years ago
No headphone jack. Barf.
zyangover 6 years ago
Live stream here. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=EsoQGTA1SxY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=EsoQGTA1SxY</a>
nrkiover 6 years ago
£189 for a keyboard case!!<p>Tell &#x27;em they&#x27;re dreamin&#x27;.
Crontabover 6 years ago
When it comes to the Pixel Slate, it will be interesting to see how long it takes Joshua Stein to get OpenBSD running on it.
wufufufuover 6 years ago
Here&#x27;s my generic cynical HN comment:<p>Every Google feature is predicated on large scale user data collection. Who asked for a phone that would answer itself or cloud storage for pictures that also processes and trains models on all of them? These features are something Google wants, not consumers. When drones are able to target individuals based on facial profiles, I&#x27;m going to think &quot;my selfies helped with that&quot;.<p>At least it has front facing speakers.
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hawkiltover 6 years ago
Why are they leving out andriod on pixel slate and moving to chromeOS? so the future phones will be on chromeOS?
jtl999over 6 years ago
I hope the Pixel 3 has a PWM free&#x2F;high frequency PWM OLED display but I&#x27;m not holding my breath :(
reificatorover 6 years ago
Has Google fixed the Bluetooth disconnecting bug in ChromeOS yet? If so I&#x27;m tempted...
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ChrisCinelliover 6 years ago
I was looking for a 8Gb Ram and a SD card slot for pretty much infinite storage... Oh well.
dandareover 6 years ago
I was choosing a new Android phone last week. Step 1: sort by headphone jack.
tata2020over 6 years ago
Thank you google for not releasing any interesting product and wasting my money.
tobltobsover 6 years ago
Does the Pixel 3 support Wifi Aware (Neighbor Awareness Networking (NAN))?
King-Aaronover 6 years ago
&gt; &quot;Take a groupie&quot;<p>I don&#x27;t think that means what they think it means.
simonebrunozziover 6 years ago
Bummed that there&#x27;s no new version of Google WiFi.
c2h5ohover 6 years ago
4 word summary: great but too expensive
nkkollawover 6 years ago
A notch!? Why!
nneonneoover 6 years ago
Google&#x27;s &quot;unlimited&quot; photo and video storage sounds like a fantastic idea! Until you realize that, as with all of Google&#x27;s products, the &quot;unlimited&quot; storage has to be paid for somehow.<p>In Google&#x27;s case, this is done by giving Google a license to use YOUR photos as they see fit (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;policies.google.com&#x2F;terms?hl=en&amp;gl=ZZ#toc-content" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;policies.google.com&#x2F;terms?hl=en&amp;gl=ZZ#toc-content</a>):<p>&gt; When you upload, submit, store, send or receive content to or through our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing you have added to Google Maps). Some Services may offer you ways to access and remove content that has been provided to that Service. Also, in some of our Services, there are terms or settings that narrow the scope of our use of the content submitted in those Services. Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to our Services.<p>Google&#x27;s entire business is &quot;operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and developing new ones&quot;, so it suffices to say that their usage is not so &quot;limited&quot;. As far as I can tell, there are no terms for Google Photos that narrow the scope.<p>Apple&#x27;s iCloud service is very different in this regard (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;legal&#x2F;internet-services&#x2F;icloud&#x2F;en&#x2F;terms.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;legal&#x2F;internet-services&#x2F;icloud&#x2F;en&#x2F;term...</a>):<p>&gt; You acknowledge and agree that Apple may, without liability to you, access, use, preserve and&#x2F;or disclose your Account information and Content to law enforcement authorities, government officials, and&#x2F;or a third party, as Apple believes is reasonably necessary or appropriate, if legally required to do so or if Apple has a good faith belief that such access, use, disclosure, or preservation is reasonably necessary to: (a) comply with legal process or request; (b) enforce this Agreement, including investigation of any potential violation thereof; (c) detect, prevent or otherwise address security, fraud or technical issues; or (d) protect the rights, property or safety of Apple, its users, a third party, or the public as required or permitted by law.<p>&gt; Except for material we may license to you, Apple does not claim ownership of the materials and&#x2F;or Content you submit or make available on the Service. However, by submitting or posting such Content on areas of the Service that are accessible by the public or other users with whom you consent to share such Content, you grant Apple a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Service solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available, without any compensation or obligation to you.<p>The first paragraph is Apple saying that they can show the FBI your iCloud account, which is already a known quantity with almost all cloud storage providers (except E2E encrypted ones). The second says that Apple only uses your content if you choose to share it with people, and then, only for the purpose of sharing.<p>Maybe you don&#x27;t care that Google has this kind of access to all your photos and videos - after all, it already does that with your GMail - but for a lot of people (myself included) this is a dealbreaker.
tata2020over 6 years ago
Most boring and useless set of products with ugly design.
glenrivardover 6 years ago
Though most impressive was the dim light photo on the Pixel 3 compared to the latest from Apple.
glenrivardover 6 years ago
Hope the Pixel 2 gets the call screening and the dim light photo abilities.
ap46over 6 years ago
Amazing to see privacy not mentioned at all.
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silverlakeover 6 years ago
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Microsoft&#x27;s Surface design led to the iPad Pro and Google Slate.
lechiffre10over 6 years ago
Hey Google,Facebook etc... You&#x27;ve had data breaches and you don&#x27;t really seem to care about user info and privacy, what&#x27;s your response? Facebook &amp; Google: &quot;Introducing these new gadgets to use in your home, where we can get access to everything you do or look up during the day&quot;